+6 and higher bonuses

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fantom wrote on 2011-03-27 10:28

Do we know what the bonus "damage" from +6 and higher enhancements does?

I'm trying to figure out how much benefit I'll get from very high levels of enhancing, but I couldn't find any information about exactly how much this stat affects my DPS output.

Everything else is pretty straightforward, more ATT, MATT, attack speed, less weight. But I'm baffled by this "damage" stat.

Anybody?
Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-03-27 19:31

The Bonus damage goes into the damage formula, which is multiplied by the percentile.

It's damage that does not have the enemy's defense subtracted from it.

For most attacks, the formula is:
(ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Base Mastery% + Mastery%)

The enhancement damage is the "extra damage."

Source.
Mikey wrote on 2011-03-27 19:48

Quote from Andy-Buddy;386185:
The Bonus damage goes into the damage formula, which is multiplied by the percentile.

It's damage that does not have the enemy's defense subtracted from it.

For most attacks, the formula is:
(ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Base Mastery% + Mastery%)

The enhancement damage is the "extra damage."

Source.

So every +10 extra damage is +62.5 attack? o:
Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-03-27 19:58

Not directly.

E.g. if I was using Counterattack at rank F, 10 Bonus damage would be 6.25 damage, regardless of the enemy's defense.
fantom wrote on 2011-03-28 17:01

Quote from Andy-Buddy;386185:
The Bonus damage goes into the damage formula, which is multiplied by the percentile.

It's damage that does not have the enemy's defense subtracted from it.

For most attacks, the formula is:
(ATK - DEF + 900 + extra damage * 6.25)* percentile * (1 + Base Mastery% + Mastery%)

The enhancement damage is the "extra damage."

Source.

Thanks for that, I didn't think to look at that thread. I should have, sorry!

What I'm getting from that is +1 "extra damage" is worth +6.25 ATK, assuming the parenthesis are correct.

I say +1 not 1 because I mean that the effect of adding +1 damage has the same effect that adding +6.25 ATK does. For example:

Assume a base attack of 10k attacking def of 5k,

+100 damage vs. +625 ATK is

(10,000 - 5,000 + 900 + 100 * 6.25)

vs.

(10,000+625 - 5,000 + 900 + 0 * 6.25)

Doing the math:
damage: (10,000 - 5,000 + 900 + 100 * 6.25) = (5,000 + 900 + 625) = 6,525

atk: (10,000+625 - 5,000 + 900 + 0 * 6.25) = (5,625 + 900 + 0) = 6,525

True?

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That makes damage a pretty darn valuable stat, imo. I definitely want as much of it as possible on my weapon. It's especially nice for a class like Evie since it applies in the same way to both magical and physical attacks, so it's actually better than an equivalent amount of +MATK.
Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-03-28 17:27

@fantom Correct, but remember, its a very rare stat also. This all just makes Enhancements all the more valuable.
fantom wrote on 2011-03-28 20:46

Quote from Andy-Buddy;387257:
@fantom Correct, but remember, its a very rare stat also. This all just makes Enhancements all the more valuable.

True. Especially +6. >_< That is a MASSIVE jump.
Abyss wrote on 2011-03-30 18:53

So the more enhancing you do, the better the bonus effect?
Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-03-30 23:46

Quote from Abyss;389703:
So the more enhancing you do, the better the bonus effect?

Yes, the exact amounts may vary item to item, though.