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element72 wrote on 2011-03-30 16:45
In the beginning my friend was saying the evie should be nerfed... wtf? I think it should be the spear lanns, no? Every duel I see, especially spear lann vs evie. "Spear lann" always wins. Even in a spear lann vs swords lann, it doesn't matter. I hve to duel someone in my guild (a spear lann) who has only lost once >.> tell me their weakness!:lol:
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foreignreign wrote on 2011-03-30 16:55
Hard to give advice when you don't tell us what character/weapon you're using.
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jakjak4161 wrote on 2011-03-30 17:23
spear lanns are way easy, as long as you dont lag.
As an Evie I always set both of our damage to 5 star (max), if they are stupid and start spinning at you, time a LLLR and use mark of death as soon as they are in range.. Ofcourse this is like trading hits, but if you time it right, the spear lann will barely manage to take out your mana shield and you would have taken out half (at least) of his health. Then simply walk away and snap, you have yourself a dead spear lann.
Against sword lanns, it is even easier, just run until they run out of stamina, then start DC>GF>LF them
Fionas, im sorry, but nexon fked you guys over with the pvp system...
All of the above can be done easily assuming ur dueling a spin2win spear lann. If you have a smart one that not only spins, but uses roll to cancel the spin when things go bad. Then there is trouble, they can follow up the roll with either a gilding fury or a sprint smash then gliding fury. Once a spear lann starts rolling and poking, things all of a sudden get alot harder.
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Gotejjeken wrote on 2011-03-30 17:44
I don't see losing too many matches using a large shield. Haven't tested counter, but I don't think I would use it anyway since you don't know when a smash is coming.
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phresh wrote on 2011-03-30 23:10
Spear Lann isn't too bad, just don't get caught in the spin2win, pick your shots and interrupt his combos. Good sword Lanns are far harder for me, as a Fiona.
Staff Evie utterly dominates PvP at the moment with a good player in control. I wouldn't complain if she got nerfed. I feel bad for Scythe Evies, they got the short end of the stick.
Fiona is actually quite viable in PvP, it just takes some practice I think. A Korean friend of mine told me that a Fiona won some dueling tournament in Mabi Heroes.
Dueling is surprisingly fun, I've been having a blast with it.
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jakjak4161 wrote on 2011-03-31 00:39
Quote from phresh;390016:
Spear Lann isn't too bad, just don't get caught in the spin2win, pick your shots and interrupt his combos. Good sword Lanns are far harder for me, as a Fiona.
Staff Evie utterly dominates PvP at the moment with a good player in control. I wouldn't complain if she got nerfed. I feel bad for Scythe Evies, they got the short end of the stick.
Fiona is actually quite viable in PvP, it just takes some practice I think. A Korean friend of mine told me that a Fiona won some dueling tournament in Mabi Heroes.
Dueling is surprisingly fun, I've been having a blast with it.
lol scythe evies got nerfed? duel me sometimes.
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Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-03-31 00:55
Staff Evies are so cheap in PvP. They can run and plant a mine, and I can't stop them because of their mana shield. The moment they plant it, they hide behind it and begin to charge firebolt, then pull back. As a fiona, there's nothing I can do to stop this.
Any tips?
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Fir wrote on 2011-03-31 02:57
Ehh for Fionas it's probably better to hold off PvPing until we get heavy stander counter.
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Gotejjeken wrote on 2011-03-31 03:16
Firebolt isn't considered a smash? You do know you can use secondaries, so spear them if they hide behind a mine.
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Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-03-31 03:25
Quote from Gotejjeken;390288:
Firebolt isn't considered a smash? You do know you can use secondaries, so spear them if they hide behind a mine.
All of my duels remove that function. Imagine bomb spam in a small area. Firebolt is considered a smash, and so is the Fire Mine. and there's also the spam of Magic arrows that are sent my way at random times so D:
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Gotejjeken wrote on 2011-03-31 03:29
Removing secondaries against an Evie is an automatic handicap, that should not be agreed to. As you mentioned, both mine and arrow are glorified secondary weapons...so it is only fair that both parties can use them.
Also, using a large shield should get rid of your smash worries, provided you don't camp behind it until you run out of stamina. The Evie can only fire so many arrows.
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Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-03-31 03:50
Quote from Gotejjeken;390316:
Removing secondaries against an Evie is an automatic handicap, that should not be agreed to. As you mentioned, both mine and arrow are glorified secondary weapons...so it is only fair that both parties can use them.
Also, using a large shield should get rid of your smash worries, provided you don't camp behind it until you run out of stamina. The Evie can only fire so many arrows.
Arrows are able to be guarded and countered, its just hard to find a good use for it though.
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element72 wrote on 2011-03-31 11:09
Quote from jakjak4161;390107:
lol scythe evies got nerfed? duel me sometimes.
r u west side? Duel Theseus. Dn't tell him about me lol. I will duel him tomorrow and hopefully i'll do some dmg on him. I'm a scythe evie btw. I have attk speed 18 right now. Let me know how it goes (if your on the west side).
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element72 wrote on 2011-03-31 11:10
Quote from jakjak4161;389628:
spear lanns are way easy, as long as you dont lag.
As an Evie I always set both of our damage to 5 star (max), if they are stupid and start spinning at you, time a LLLR and use mark of death as soon as they are in range.. Ofcourse this is like trading hits, but if you time it right, the spear lann will barely manage to take out your mana shield and you would have taken out half (at least) of his health. Then simply walk away and snap, you have yourself a dead spear lann.
Against sword lanns, it is even easier, just run until they run out of stamina, then start DC>GF>LF them
Fionas, im sorry, but nexon fked you guys over with the pvp system...
All of the above can be done easily assuming ur dueling a spin2win spear lann. If you have a smart one that not only spins, but uses roll to cancel the spin when things go bad. Then there is trouble, they can follow up the roll with either a gilding fury or a sprint smash then gliding fury. Once a spear lann starts rolling and poking, things all of a sudden get alot harder.
I'm a scythe evie and I have the mine bomb at max. I was thinking of utilizing this in the duel. Maybe it's my counter to the spear lann's spin?
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phresh wrote on 2011-03-31 15:40
You can actually counter attack off staff's magic mines but it's fairly tricky.
Quote from jakjak4161;390107:
lol scythe evies got nerfed? duel me sometimes.
Surely. Glad you're having some PvP success with Scythe. Hopefully you are on West.