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hengsheng120 wrote on 2010-05-20 03:39
This is not unlike china (but in china students get summer off), realistically it is impossible for us to use in or be in an asian education system. Think about it, our culture and history is waay too different. The values that people have would never ever be compatible with such change. The mainstream american culture itself even discourages introvertness and nerdiness.
The reason for the high suicide rate is the lack of emotional support from the parents from generation to generation; lack of emotional support means that kids have to learn social skills from outside influences or not learn it at all, and perhaps grow up with underdeveloped emotional/social skills. They are too focused on making more money, and just want their kids to make even more money, and simply relate wealth to grades in school, and have almost no concerns about their kids' interests or creativity. Many kids adopt part of their parents' ideals and pass them on.
The sheer number of people playing mmorpgs in korea shows how much kids wants to get away from their real life. They just want some enjoyment in their life, so much so that a significant amount become addicted to it, and internet is the easiest source; almost no work needs to be done compared to doing things in real life.
It is much more likely that south korea will migrate towards an american educational system due to the increasing western influence than the other way around.
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Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-05-20 03:50
Quote from Chocklitshop;39878:
I bet thousands of teen's and parent's would be on strike.
There's also alot of teens who ditch school often, the 2 Months of more school would probably make them expelled, or repeat.
So failure rate would be extremely high .__.
I seriously hope that this would happen. I mean, sometimes, I just wish that those students who don't even try on anything and disrupt the classroom constantly would just keep on doing that, and BAM! They see the fruits of their labors instantly. However, school is quite a waste of time. I mean, really, I'm in grade 8. In LA, we JUST FREAKING STARTED DOING THE BASIC LITERARY DEVICES (simile, metaphor, hyperbole, onomatopoeia, symbolism, alliteration) for the first time. We didn't even learn that in earlier years except grade 7 where we just spent one class looking at a notebook. Hell, I think I learned more in g7 than g8, cause we did something productive! Also, I agree with kitae that America
just can't handle it. But personally, I think by-the-book learning is better.
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Chockeh wrote on 2010-05-20 03:56
Quote from Mrlucky77;39954:
I seriously hope that this would happen. I mean, sometimes, I just wish that those students who don't even try on anything and disrupt the classroom constantly would just keep on doing that, and BAM! They see the fruits of their labors instantly. However, school is quite a waste of time. I mean, really, I'm in grade 8. In LA, we JUST FREAKING STARTED DOING THE BASIC LITERARY DEVICES (simile, metaphor, hyperbole, onomatopoeia, symbolism, alliteration) for the first time. We didn't even learn that in earlier years except grade 7 where we just spent one class looking at a notebook. Hell, I think I learned more in g7 than g8, cause we did something productive! Also, I agree with kitae that America just can't handle it. But personally, I think by-the-book learning is better.
Wait, what? I'm in grade 11 and we just started doing those. Then again, my school is primarily french, so English classes are still for noobs, and I'm in enriched English D:...
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Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-05-20 04:06
Quote from Chocklitshop;39959:
Wait, what? I'm in grade 11 and we just started doing those. Then again, my school is primarily french, so English classes are still for noobs, and I'm in enriched English D:...
But it's BASIC literary devices. So like the obvious symbols, similes, etc. Not that really hard-to-find stuff in those Shakespeare and pride and prejudice crap my brother always complains about.
For example, what we're learning in class vs what I'm learning in MeeRae (advanced LA tutor class)
Class: A dove is a symbol for peace.
MeeRae: The entity of Ed Kennedy in
I am the Messenger is a symbol for the potential that we have in all of us.
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Axx wrote on 2010-05-20 04:07
Self study is best--if you're motivated enough to study on your own. Most kids aren't, hence mandatory schooling.
Biggest issue in Florida is constantly cutting the education budget to try to balance spending. Which I think is pointless, budget will never be balanced, lets just go all out and spend as much as possible till it all comes crashing down.
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spazzyorbit wrote on 2010-05-20 04:25
Obama should go after the overprotective teachers' unions instead of tacking ALL of the blame on the students.
When the teachers actually match up to the standards then we can try something like this (which i support... our current school schedule hasn't been changed since america was largely agricultural)
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Chockeh wrote on 2010-05-20 04:28
Quote from Mrlucky77;39966:
But it's BASIC literary devices. So like the obvious symbols, similes, etc. Not that really hard-to-find stuff in those Shakespeare and pride and prejudice crap my brother always complains about.
For example, what we're learning in class vs what I'm learning in MeeRae (advanced LA tutor class)
Class: A dove is a symbol for peace.
MeeRae: The entity of Ed Kennedy in I am the Messenger is a symbol for the potential that we have in all of us.
We just started all that Shakespeare stuff too...
Easy for us Anglophones, but it seems to the french people .__.
We still haven' t learned
[COLOR=#006400][FONT=Comic Sans MS]onomatopoeia, symbolism and alliteration yet either D:...
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Mrlucky77 wrote on 2010-05-20 04:33
Quote from spazzyorbit;39979:
Obama should go after the overprotective teachers' unions instead of tacking ALL of the blame on the students.
When the teachers actually match up to the standards then we can try something like this (which i support... our current school schedule hasn't been changed since america was largely agricultural)
I actually read that most teachers in USA don't have an official teaching liscence from a post-secondary school. But Canada does. <3
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Kazuni wrote on 2010-05-20 05:05
School sucks, it really does.
I never do the homework at home, I usually get to school around half an hour before my first class starts [due to tricky bus scheduling and a constantly late driver if I take the later bus], so I do all my homework before school and at lunch.
It's much easier in Canada than it was in China..
I went to grade one when I was four, because my parents wanted me to learn some basic mandarin stuff before I moved to Canada, so I was the shortest, youngest (despite having a January birthday), and probably the dumbest in my class for the longest time. My teacher yelled at me and hit me on the hands with a metal ruler often. She'd also scold me for eating my lunch slow. I remember that.
Then I came to Canada and after I mastered the art of .. English, in around grade 1~2, I was regarded as a super-genius. After being able to communicate fluently with all my teachers, they threw me into every "gifted" program they knew of in the school, which basically all consisted of Chinese/Korean/Japanese immigrants.
My grandma constantly asks if we're having a good life in Canada and if we want to move back. Really? If I moved back, I'd end up a homeless person on the street, probably. I have no motive for studying (nor am I good at it, since I never study), and I hate homework like I hate wasps stuck in my room. I already know there's no way I can handle anything remotely close to the schooling in China, much less what Korea sounds like. Hellish, it is.
Indeed, if the USA should become like that, I shall laugh, and laugh I shall. It's impossible, the teachers and students aren't cut out for it. People would fail, and people would die, not to mention the extreme parental stress that will come with asian parents who love this kind of education.
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Lan wrote on 2010-05-20 05:09
School in Cambodia was easy...
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-05-20 05:23
Quote from Lan;40003:
School in Cambodia was easy...
because it's not a developed nation owo.
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Lan wrote on 2010-05-20 05:29
Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;40014:
because it's not a developed nation owo.
Private school :s
My mother went to school in a developing nation (Then france) and she's the most educated person where she works :s
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-05-20 05:46
owo
the france part is what made up for it
Kitae, did you show to mommy yet :X
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Cucurbita wrote on 2010-05-20 06:01
Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;40032:
owo
the france part is what made up for it
Kitae, did you show to mommy yet :X
Like she cares. All she does is facebooooooooook and sleep.
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-05-20 06:06
no wonder why she wouldnt go on msn