aiming

• SozenCratosFocker wrote on 2011-06-02 13:05
  Note: I am aware that there is already a thread about secondary weapons here, but it's so old it only has the from before the secondary weapon mastery skill, and the information on weapons is nothing more than a copy of the ingame item descriptions. also, I strongly disagree with what it says about auto aim, and the thread's title is a blatant lie.
  
  
  Aiming
  
  auto
  don't use it. ever.
  
  manual
  the red curve displayed when you're aiming shows the path the weapon/object would follow if it were to be thrown at that angle from that spot. However, the starting position and angle are decided not when you click, but when the weapon/object leaves your hand. because of this the aiming line is always slightly off, and why you can still adjust your aim after clicking. during the throwing animation, the character moves slightly, usually a little bit forward and a very small amount to the side. the shift is based on the throwing animation, so it differs depending on the character and the weapon(Examples: a spear's trajectory won't move as far forward for an Evie as it does for a Fiona or a Lan. A harpoon 's trajectory shifts back and to the right, rather than forward like a spear's.), and it will also be affected by any obstacles that interfere with your movement during the throwing animation, and by the slope of the ground you're standing on. This usually isn't a big deal, but it matters when you're aiming for something specific. for example, the hitbox for the polar bear's eye is smaller than the shift in a spear's trajectory.
  You're able to change the angle until the moment the weapon/object leaves your character's hand, so if you can aim fast, and don't have much lag, you can click as soon as you press F and aim during the throw to save time. When aiming before you throw, Make sure you don't move the mouse or press movement keys while you're throwing.
  
  
  Non-Bombs
  only affect the first thing they hit and have no splash effect, amount of damage is always the same and not affected by the stats of the thrower or target
  
  Spear: 315 damage
  
  Fine Spear: 441 damage, increased knockdown chance
  
  Chain hook
  
  Mercury trap
  
  Harpoon
  
  Bombs
  Bombs are effected by the game's physics engine and can be moved by almost anything until they go off. Their damage depends on the distance between the explosion and the target
  
  bomb
  
  Mine bomb
  
  Fine bomb
  
  Light of Palala
  
  
  
  I intend to edit this guide later to make it more organized, add more specific info on bomb damage once I get more specific info, and maybe add pictures or something.
• Mayfee wrote on 2011-06-02 14:29
  Very useful info. It could use a bit of reorganization and spellchecking, however.
  
  Take mercury bombs off the list since you can no longer throw them.
• foreignreign wrote on 2011-06-02 14:38
  Auto-aiming on chains is really good. It may not be useful all the time (Klaus, Thor), but more often than not it's much faster than manual and allows for much easier repeated hooking. The trick is positioning yourself so that the auto-aim doesn't catch a boss' arm.
• Sariyassa wrote on 2011-06-02 20:57
  Auto-aim on spears can be used really well if you know what you're doing, not to mention auto-aim is way quicker than aiming. Of course, it's a different story when you actually have to hit a certain part.
  
  I dunno about the others, as I've never used anything apart from spears.
• Ampersand wrote on 2011-06-02 21:35
  Auto aiming has its place. Like others said, it's great for chaining a lot of 2-legged bosses.
  Auto spears are great for finishing kills on both trash mobs and bosses, because of the speed and generally good accuracy.
  
  I wish there was a hotkey to toggle between auto and manual, so I don't have to go through the options menu when I need to change modes =(
• dotbeige wrote on 2011-06-02 22:35

  Quote from Ampersand;464552:

  
  I wish there was a hotkey to toggle between auto and manual, so I don't have to go through the options menu when I need to change modes =(

  
  
  +1
  
  Wish there was a macro for it :I
• Andy-Buddy wrote on 2011-06-02 22:53
  Auto aim is really good for getting massive amounts out fast, or just getting a good shot quickly out.
  
  Manual is best for breakoffs/placing bombs.
  
  Not many other uses for secondary weapons.
• SozenCratosFocker wrote on 2011-06-04 12:55
  Um, sorry, I must have hit submit instead of preview at some point yesterday(I was half asleep). This guide probably won't be anywhere near ready for at least a day or two. I still have some testing to do to figure out the bomb damage formula, and plenty of editing. Is there a way to delete the thread? and if not, please just ignore this till i update it in a few days.
• Sariyassa wrote on 2011-06-04 14:06

  Quote from Ampersand;464552:

  I wish there was a hotkey to toggle between auto and manual, so I don't have to go through the options menu when I need to change modes =(

  
  
  Uhm, don't you manually aim by holding down your hotkey?
• Mayfee wrote on 2011-06-04 18:41
  As Evie, I find auto-aim to be particularly useful for scoring knockdowns since you can toss a spear in-between each spell for an additional chance at knocking down a boss.
• Ampersand wrote on 2011-06-04 19:34

  Quote from Sariyassa;467368:

  Uhm, don't you manually aim by holding down your hotkey?

  
  
  That is doable, but I find it too slow and clunky for when I actually do need to aim.
• Sariyassa wrote on 2011-06-04 23:57

  Quote from Ampersand;467772:

  That is doable, but I find it too slow and clunky for when I actually do need to aim.

  Huh. It goes quick enough for me that I accidentally do it sometimes.
• Overblood wrote on 2011-06-14 02:32

  Quote from Mayfee;467677:

  As Evie, I find auto-aim to be particularly useful for scoring knockdowns since you can toss a spear in-between each spell for an additional chance at knocking down a boss.

  
  
  I find myself using auto spear to knockdown too
  
  I usually only use manual for breakoffs or if the boss is oddly positioned