Nation. Tell me a strange fact about yourself.

• Sleeperdial wrote on 2011-08-04 02:12

  Quote from Cynic;537519:

  It's daft and unrealistic, though. Fear is fear. If it were that easy to overcome, we'd all be ballzy f*cks by now.
  
  Let people fear what they want to fear. Unless it's completely irrational, it's normal. We're human. Not robots.

  
  
  Au contraire
  
  This rule is true for you because you believe it. The same rule doesn't apply to me because I don't believe it. While I don't think you can control your circumstances, and I also don't claim to be completely fearless, the simple fact is that whatever you believe is your reality, that's why you see so many idiots running around that you swear are living on a different planet. I believe I can be fearless so most of the time I am. Fear is a healthy thing in certain situations, that's why the fight or flight reaction is important, fear serves as the trigger for it. Unnecessary fear is what should be overcome though. And if you make your fear in to an entity rather than just something that is no bigger than you are, because its just in your mind, then it will be something to fear. Being forced to do something you're afraid of won't cut it, you have to know that in situation X there is nothing to be afraid of. Honestly it is hard to just change what you believe on simple thought alone. That's the reason why people always face their fears when it matters most. Honestly, though its not important enough to get worked up over, and I'm not going to ridicule him for it. Just pointing out the fact that if he's looking for a good time, its always potentially there.
  
  Edit: You people seem to believe that you can't change your mentality, and if a fear is there then it will always be there until something comes along and changes it. If that were true and fears are these constant walls you make them out to be, then you would probably be scared every night because you'd be afraid there is monsters under your bed.
• Sedia wrote on 2011-08-04 02:17
  I have a small fear of social interactions on a game I'm not that good at yet.Like in TF2,I'll easily chicken out when trying out a server. I'll click the server...but not enough that I actually join it. And even if the server obviously caters to noobs,I still won't go. That's why I only play with bots.For that reason,and for the fact I have nobody to play with.
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2011-08-04 02:19

  Quote from CurlyBrace13;537536:

  I have a small fear of social interactions on a game I'm not that good at yet.Like in TF2,I'll easily chicken out when trying out a server. I'll click the server...but not enough that I actually join it. And even if the server obviously caters to noobs,I still won't go. That's why I only play with bots.For that reason,and for the fact I have nobody to play with.

  
  
  I'd evaluate and try to help you get over it, if thats what you're looking for, but I think that I'd start another argument.
  
  I also should probably mention at this point that I've studied psychology for a while now, and I know a lot about it.
• Sedia wrote on 2011-08-04 02:22

  Quote from Sleeperdial;537540:

  I'd evaluate and try to help you get over it, if thats what you're looking for, but I think that I'd start another argument.
  
  I also should probably mention at this point that I've studied psychology for a while now, and I know a lot about it.

  
  
  That would be nice. I'd really like to play with other people,but I'm too......afraid.:fail3:
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2011-08-04 02:25

  Quote from CurlyBrace13;537545:

  That would be nice. I'd really like to play with other people,but I'm too......afraid.:fail3:

  
  
  I'll pm you what I can do.
• Kueh wrote on 2011-08-04 02:26

  Quote from Sleeperdial;537534:

  You people seem to believe that you can't change your mentality

  
  
  Changing your mentality and simply willing your fear away are two different things. Some people aren't even aware of what they're afraid of, and saying that they can just suck it up and stop being afraid is unfair and insensitive.
  
  While I do agree that most people have a degree of control over their emotions, some people have more control than others, and saying that everyone can just stop being afraid just because, is like saying that everyone can just stop being angry just by willing away those emotions.
  
  For some people, and some contexts, yes. This works. In fact, there's a whole theory in psychology that says just by acting like you're feeling a certain way will make you feel that way for real. But not everyone is of the mental clarity to accomplish such feats, and putting the blame on the person is just not helpful at all.
  
  Like you yourself said, there is a reason why we feel fear. It's a good thing! The irrational fear is what is troublesome. But how can you think a person with an irrational fear is able to think rationally enough to make the fear vanish by mind power alone?
• Taycat wrote on 2011-08-04 02:28
  I can't sit still for too long. If I do, I'll start to fidget.
  
  Also, I like to bounce my leg up and down.
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2011-08-04 02:32

  Quote from Lyre;537554:

  Changing your mentality and simply willing your fear away are two different things. Some people aren't even aware of what they're afraid of, and saying that they can just suck it up and stop being afraid is unfair and insensitive.
  
  While I do agree that most people have a degree of control over their emotions, some people have more control than others, and saying that everyone can just stop being afraid just because, is like saying that everyone can just stop being angry just by willing away those emotions.
  
  For some people, and some contexts, yes. This works. In fact, there's a whole theory in psychology that says just by acting like you're feeling a certain way will make you feel that way for real. But not everyone is of the mental clarity to accomplish such feats, and putting the blame on the person is just not helpful at all.
  
  Like you yourself said, there is a reason why we feel fear. It's a good thing! The irrational fear is what is troublesome. But how can you think a person with an irrational fear is able to think rationally enough to make the fear vanish by mind power alone?

  
  
  I never said that they could, but fear is whatever you make it out to be, it is a clear emotion that everyone is familiar with and recognizes. Actually, before I go on let me ask you this. What IS fear and what does it do? And when did I place the blame on him?
• Sedia wrote on 2011-08-04 02:32

  Quote from Mythical Detective Loki;537559:

  I can't sit still for too long. If I do, I'll start to fidget.
  
  Also, I like to bounce my leg up and down.

  
  
  Same. My legs start to hurt if I sit down the same way for too long. And sitting still is boring! :D
• Cynic wrote on 2011-08-04 02:33
  It /is/ possible to change your mentality, yes. But it is not easy. You don't need to lecture me on the facts of fear, what it stems from, what it does and so on. I'm well aware of it.
  
  My point is, not every wants nor needs to overcome those little fears. If they let it run their entire life, then yes, they need to get over it. But a simple fear of roller coasters? Big deal. Everyone has them. Just because it's somewhat irrational doesn't mean people need to get over them.
  
  You say they don't need to force themselves to get over it, yet you're lecturing them for not being able to/wanting to control their fears in the first place. Just because you think it makes you cool to be able to "control" your fears doesn't give ya' the right to lecture other people on it.
  
  Lawd almighty.
• Kollin wrote on 2011-08-04 02:36

  Quote from Mythical Detective Loki;537559:

  I can't sit still for too long. If I do, I'll start to fidget.
  
  Also, I like to bounce my leg up and down.

  
  
  i also suffer from this.
• Kueh wrote on 2011-08-04 02:44

  Quote from Sleeperdial;537566:

  I never said that they could

  
  
  You actually did.
  
  

  Quote from Sleeperdial;537510:

  Yes, yes you can.

  
  
  

  Quote from Sleeperdial;537566:

  but fear is whatever you make it out to be, it is a clear emotion that everyone is familiar with and recognizes. Actually, before I go on let me ask you this. What IS fear and what does it do? And when did I place the blame on him?

  
  
  Not everyone recognizes it. That's a cheap shot. Many people are in a complex mental state and, while they might be experiencing fear constantly, they would be hard pressed to recognize and acknowledge these feelings. As for your first question, fear is a basic emotion that has been shown linked to the body's physiological reaction to stress and danger. Among other things, fear's first cause on a subject of the feeling is to make the subject attempt to eliminate that which is the cause of the fear.
  
  As for your second question:
  

  Quote from Sleeperdial;537510:

  Yes, yes you can.

• Sleeperdial wrote on 2011-08-04 02:44

  Quote from Cynic;537568:

  It /is/ possible to change your mentality, yes. But it is not easy. You don't need to lecture me on the facts of fear, what it stems from, what it does and so on. I'm well aware of it.
  
  My point is, not every wants nor needs to overcome those little fears. If they let it run their entire life, then yes, they need to get over it. But a simple fear of roller coasters? Big deal. Everyone has them. Just because it's somewhat irrational doesn't mean people need to get over them.
  
  You say they don't need to force themselves to get over it, yet you're lecturing them for not being able to/wanting to control their fears in the first place. Just because you think it makes you cool to be able to "control" your fears doesn't give ya' the right to lecture other people on it.
  
  Lawd almighty.

  
  
  Thats just the way fear works, you're either in control of it or not in control of it, that doesn't necessarily mean it controls you or anything negative like that. Its just a simple fact. I'm only stating that it can be done and to quote myself
  
  

  Quote from Sleeperdial:

  Honestly, though its not important enough to get worked up over, and I'm not going to ridicule him for it. Just pointing out the fact that if he's looking for a good time, its always potentially there.

  
  
  I'm just pointing out the fact that if he does want to overcome his fears its all right there there's nothing stopping him should it become important enough to him that he wants to get over it.
  
  But then again all you guys seem to want to do is tell me how its not possible.
• Conor wrote on 2011-08-04 02:51

  Quote from Sleeperdial;537582:

  
  But then again all you guys seem to want to do is tell me how its not possible.

  
  
  Don't put me into that lot. You didn't understand what I meant.
  Not that I said anything about what I meant.
• Sleeperdial wrote on 2011-08-04 02:54

  Quote from Conor;537586:

  Don't put me into that lot. You didn't understand what I meant.
  Not that I said anything about what I meant.

  
  
  When did I say it was you, you didn't really say much at all. So I wasn't really talking about you.
  
  

  Quote from Lyre;537581:

  You actually did.
  
  
  
  
  
  Not everyone recognizes it. That's a cheap shot. Many people are in a complex mental state and, while they might be experiencing fear constantly, they would be hard pressed to recognize and acknowledge these feelings.

  
  
  I concede this, you are right, after all I've been there before, fear is always different while your in it and its hard to recognize at times.
  
  I didn't do it by just willing my fear away, it took some work, facing fear the right way with the right mentality is important. I actually have to tell myself that there is nothing to be afraid of before going into something scary. So I suppose "fearless" isn't the right word, but rather "able to overcome fear easily".
  
  You're answer, "Fear is a basic emotion" is where it lies.
  Its not different from being sad about a loss, or laughing uncontrollably because you're having a good time, not many people are going to walk up and say "Get over it." When you're crying because your dog died. I'm certainly not going to, all I said is that you can. I'm just telling you that if you really want to that you can do it. If you're offended by that I'm sorry, I'll try to be more sensitive next time. All I did was point out how I know to do it, Cynic said it was daft and I told him how it wasn't. How did we end up here?
  
  In response to your last statement, that response was to apple, not the op. It has nothing to do with Michos post other than the circumstances. I also don't see how its placing the blame on him at any rate, its just stating that you can in fact kick your fear response.