Sex Surrogates Seem Like Prostitutes But Are Helping Hands

• Kollin wrote on 2011-08-04 02:22

  Quote from Sumpfkraut;537480:

  I just wish this thread wouldn't be full of Americans so it wouldn't be full of anti-prostitution whining.
  
  Either way, with or without sex, this is a honourable job, much more honourable than the jobs most of you do or ever will do.

  
  
  im not against it in any way at all, and would take part in it for cash if i needed. theres just no reason in trying to pass it off as something else entirely.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-08-04 02:28

  Quote from Kollin;537544:

  im not against it in any way at all, and would take part in it for cash if i needed. theres just no reason in trying to pass it off as something else entirely.

  
  
  ^
  "Prostitution is the act or practice of providing sexual services to another person in return for payment." calling this anything but is just silly.
• truefire wrote on 2011-08-05 08:39

  Quote from Sumpfkraut;537480:

  I just wish this thread wouldn't be full of Americans so it wouldn't be full of anti-prostitution whining.
  
  Either way, with or without sex, this is a honourable job, much more honourable than the jobs most of you do or ever will do.

  
  
  I just wish the American-bashing for the sake of American-bashing wasn't such a bandwagon response, but that's just me. Reading through the responses of this thread, however, I can safely say you're more or less putting words in peoples' mouths. All anyone has said so far seems to be "Call it whatever you like--it's still prostitution," and has yet to give their stance on prostitution in and of itself.
  
  As for my two cents? The article, or at least the interviewee, doesn't really do a good job of highlighting the benefits of the program with her three examples. The first person became attached to their therapist. An understandable reaction, as the therapy was designed to help him form better bonds with women and that would be a bit hard to do without developing some feelings considering the level of intimacy involved. The second one backed down as he was still too uncomfortable. And the third couldn't afford the therapy. I'm not saying the therapy isn't effective, but I'm saying none of those three cases are representative of its success.
  
  But what do I know? I'm an uptight, sexually puritanical, homophobic, egocentric, flag-humping, obese, war-loving red-blooded American who can't lower myself to learn the savage languages or views of the world (really, could you guys stop speaking that gibberish and speak the way humans were intended to speak? In American?), no sir. Now excuse me while I go practice my morning ritual of saluting the flag for three hours.
• Sumpfkraut wrote on 2011-08-05 16:42
  Very amusing response.
  
  Also you should read the responses a bit better yourself, words that were chosen included silly, daft and glorified prostitution and the way the respective sentences were worded made it a sensible assumption that it might not have been a critique of their avoidance of a comparison with prostitution, but rather of the fact that there is a sexual component to this therapy.
  If I am mistaken that is perfectly fine, but I still don't understand why people are so critical that someone distances himself from a term that has negative connotations in vast parts of the region where they are trying to get recognition.
  
  
  That really wasn't US bashing for the sake of bashing.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2011-08-05 18:14

  Quote from Kollin;537544:

  im not against it in any way at all, and would take part in it for cash if i needed. theres just no reason in trying to pass it off as something else entirely.

  
  
  psychological help is still psychological help.. theres just no reason in trying to pass it off as something else entirely based on some of the possible actions that are taken to provide the help..
• Cynic wrote on 2011-08-05 18:18

  Quote from Chiyuri;539625:

  psychological help is still psychological help.. theres just no reason in trying to pass it off as something else entirely based on some of the possible actions that are taken to provide the help..

  
  
  Doesn't matter if they're trying to help, that's only one aspect of it. The fact of the matter is the sex part of it is still prostitution by definition.
  Call it fancy if you like, but being paid for sex is being paid for sex.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2011-08-05 18:30

  Quote from Cynic;539631:

  Doesn't matter if they're trying to help, that's only one aspect of it. The fact of the matter is the sex part of it is still prostitution by definition.
  Call it fancy if you like, but being paid for sex is being paid for sex.

  
  
  The person is payed for possible results. Sex is only one of the possible means to achieve it.
  
  Prostitution is only that.. a work that revolve only on selling sex.
  
  
  An example. Let say someone's job is to be a shop owner. Been a shop owner may require that person to handle the cash register infront of customers. But handling the cash register is not the only thing they may have to do.
  I personnaly find it odd to "think" that the job of this shop onwer revolves only around been a Cashier. The job owner is not been payed to be a Cashier but instead get moeny from been that; a shop owner.
• starpaw7 wrote on 2011-08-05 22:03

  Quote from Chiyuri;539638:

  The person is payed for possible results. Sex is only one of the possible means to achieve it.
  
  Prostitution is only that.. a work that revolve only on selling sex.
  
  
  An example. Let say someone's job is to be a shop owner. Been a shop owner may require that person to handle the cash register infront of customers. But handling the cash register is not the only thing they may have to do.
  I personnaly find it odd to "think" that the job of this shop onwer revolves only around been a Cashier. The job owner is not been payed to be a Cashier but instead get moeny from been that; a shop owner.

  
  
  
  I think it is a bit misleading that the name of the article is only named with "Sex Surrogates" - it sounds that the focus is primarily on the 'sex' part, with only a few times calling them "sex or partner surrogate".
  
  If the two really are separate, then I have to agree with the earlier posts of the "sex surrogate" being a fancy name for a "prostitute" - except that they actually try help the patient.
  
  Although I find that job silly, I am glad that they are trying to help :what: