Are ideas finite?

• abc33kr wrote on 2011-08-26 07:41

  Quote from Lyre;566341:

  I'm not really sure what you mean. You said one thing, and then right after said the exact opposite.

  
  
  he's considering both sides.
  One side being original ideas. Other side being derived ideas.
  He's saying first is finite, the latter is infinite.
• Kueh wrote on 2011-08-26 07:47

  Quote from abc33kr;566364:

  he's considering both sides.
  One side being original ideas. Other side being derived ideas.
  He's saying first is finite, the ladder is infinite.

  
  
  Oh, I see. I also think you mean latter.
• abc33kr wrote on 2011-08-26 08:14

  Quote from Lyre;566380:

  Oh, I see. I also think you mean latter.

  
  
  i blame minecraft for the typo. >_>
• Guyverunit4 wrote on 2011-08-26 08:58

  Quote from Lyre:

  I'm not really sure what you mean. You said one thing, and then right after said the exact opposite.

  
  

  Quote from abc33kr:

  he's considering both sides.
  One side being original ideas. Other side being derived ideas.
  He's saying first is finite, the latter is infinite.

  
  Yes, sorry for my lack of clarity, and thank you abc for clearing it up xD. I'm tired and can't fall asleep, things are bound to happen >>
• Applefish wrote on 2011-08-26 09:29
  [font="Tahoma"]Here I'd like to quote fictional Ariadne from the movie Inception: "You've got to build from stuff you know, right?"
  Ideas are evolved. If we speak strictly of originality, the word and its meaning would be lost in space, as would everything else that exists in the universe. Imagination is developed from our ability to see, smell, hear, touch, and taste. We express the things we marvel in different perspectives that are infinite, which means that structured and particularized ideas are infinite as well.[/font]
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-08-28 21:33
  Ideas are finite in a sense because humanity is not infinite. Humanity will eventually die out from the universe because eventually, all the stars will run out of energy. This is assuming that humans creates new technology to live in another planet when the Sun consumes the Earth. When humanity dies, ideas (from humans) will be gone as well.
  
  Until then, ideas are more or less near unlimited. There are always new ones.
  Just look at those pokemon. How much are there now? A trillion?
• Ninjam wrote on 2011-08-31 20:56
  By the time all the stars in the universe have died, humanity will have evolved past the point of requireing them. At least thats what im thinking, or it might just be that im remembering something i read in an animporphs book a few years back. Either way, wont matter to us because thats wayyy too long in the future.
  
  All the new pokemon look the same as the old ones. Every move is just a different animated one of the old ones with different power and effects. If you think about things too much they do become unoriginal.
  
  Its an interesting idea, especial for me because i want to develop video games. I don't want to just copy the many many games there are now. I want to make something unique, that would be fun and exciting for people to play. I cant do that if all video game ideas have already been taken and created.
  
  Another interesting point i just thought of. In school i remember literature classes telling me that all stories have formulas. Protagonist, antagonist, minor characters, all stories have one main problem. Look at any fictional movie, book, or game and you can see it too. People for the most part have followed this formula for centuries from what i see.
• Estern wrote on 2011-09-01 08:18
  Are ideas finite?
  
  Read Hume, if you ever have the time. I think he does a fantastic job describing the idea of how ideas are derived. I think his explanation will put anything I can say to utter shame, so I'm not going to really bother saying anything, really.
  
  But, one thing I will ask is, can we truly say that any idea is completely original? Again, go read what Hume says. You should find what I mean to say in "An Enquiry of the Human Mind".