If governments can do it...

• Osayidan wrote on 2011-08-12 23:53

  The launch of China’s first aircraft carrier has been marred by accusations that it has pirated much of technology used in the ship, with Russia in particular said to be livid at the shameless copying of its aircraft designs.
  
  The carrier itself, just launched by China in order to complete sea trials, was originally a Soviet-built aircraft carrier sold to China by the Ukraine in 1998, known as the Varyag and not yet formally renamed by China.
  
  According to naval experts, the ship is little more than a hodgepodge of technologies pirated from foreign “partners” in much the same way as China obtained its high speed rail system, bolted onto the mouldering Ukrainian hulk purchased in 1998.
  
  Its radar system is said to be a “clear copy” of the Russian Fregat radar system, its close-in weapon system is, according to Chinese media, “based on a Dutch design,” one of its missile systems “closely resembles” a US-German design, whilst its optical landing system is said to be very similar to systems used on US carriers.
  
  
  
  Most controversially, the Shenyang J-15 planes intended for use on the carrier are illegal copies of Russian Sukhoi Su-33s, a fact which has incensed Russia, particularly after China began hawking its clones to the very nations Russia has been attempting to sell the originals to.
  
  However, nations whom China is intent on menacing with its new fleet probably need not be too worried just yet – one expert wryly comments that “as with their high speed rail system, they’ve just made rushed copies of a bunch of foreign technology, so there is the possibility of all kinds of future trouble.”

  
  
  If they can pirate then so can we.
  
  Source = SC, too many boobs to link.
• Adelynn wrote on 2011-08-13 00:02
  That's cheating!
  Bad China.
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-08-13 00:03
  Why would you use dirty China as an excuse for your own behaviour? :<
• Taycat wrote on 2011-08-13 01:11
  Silly China...
• Sekwaf wrote on 2011-08-13 01:15
  They do seem to like to cheat...
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-08-13 01:17
  I wouldn't call em silly. More like assholes and criminals. They lure companies into doing business with them, then they rip them off. :(
• Osayidan wrote on 2011-08-13 01:30
  Well people make a huge deal about it (and lawsuits) when someone downloads a song no one even likes, but china can pirate a whole war machine and people just write a non threatening news story.
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-08-13 01:31
  Because there's little you can do about it here, anyway.
• JustNoOne wrote on 2011-08-13 01:32
  wow, chinese pirating ftl?
  
  but hey, the chinese can build their own now right? o.o
• Yoorah wrote on 2011-08-13 01:39
  Not necessarily. But that's their goal.
  
  For example, you can easily steal or buy a fighter jet, take its engine apart and figure out the design, how it works, etc. You can figure out the components and materials used to build it. But you cannot figure out the manufacturing process, which ultimately determines how reliable the end product will be. Given the enormous stresses jet engines experience, this is very important here. Chinese simply cannot copy Russian-made engines, so they have to buy them from Russia for use in their cheap copies of Russian jets. And Russia is strapped for cash, so they have to play along despite them getting ripped off in the process.
• MikeHo wrote on 2011-08-13 01:49
  There has been alot of hacking issues recently (government) and alot of people say china was the likely culprit.
• Random wrote on 2011-08-13 02:06

  Quote from Yoorah;550140:

  Not necessarily. But that's their goal.
  
  For example, you can easily steal or buy a fighter jet, take its engine apart and figure out the design, how it works, etc. You can figure out the components and materials used to build it. But you cannot figure out the manufacturing process, which ultimately determines how reliable the end product will be. Given the enormous stresses jet engines experience, this is very important here. Chinese simply cannot copy Russian-made engines, so they have to buy them from Russia for use in their cheap copies of Russian jets. And Russia is strapped for cash, so they have to play along despite them getting ripped off in the process.

  
  
  This is more important than people think. Jets tear themselves apart when they're used.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-08-13 06:36

  Quote from Mythical Detective Loki;550099:

  Silly China...

  
  
  Pirates are for kids!
• Arsik wrote on 2011-08-13 07:04
  Sorry if this offends anyone, but this is China we're talking about. They make cheap knockoffs for everything else in the world already, I really don't think that Russia or anyone else should be surprised that China's done the same with their fighter jets and aircraft carrier.