Scythe Evie and Critical Hit

• sakraycore wrote on 2011-09-29 14:14
  Is it good or bad now?
  
  The guide says it is bad....but is it still like this now? I don't have much skills left to rank anymore so I was considering whether I should put any points into this at all.
• Oizen wrote on 2011-09-29 15:02
  I don't get why crits would be bad, explain please =v
• sakraycore wrote on 2011-09-29 15:14
  Well not to that extent, but I miss like 2/3 of my smash and snaps due to spin2win lanns pushing the spiders back. The upswing portion of the smash has a potential to push the monster back like that if it crits, and causing the bulk of our damage to miss.
• xJac wrote on 2011-09-29 15:30
  Nah, critical isn't bad at all.
  
  It's just better to spend your ap in something else. If you're getting too little place to put ap in, sure, put it into critical.
  
  [edit]
  Only your magical part of the smash will miss, you can still deal your snap damage. Which, last I check, should be enough to finish the monster with your physical critical damage (assuming you could have killed the monster with the magical damage).
  
  And also, LLR is mainly physical, guess what, it's the safest way of dealing damage in higher level mobs, as going to LLLLR is going to need some time to pull off, and those mob most likely won't let you.
• foreignreign wrote on 2011-09-29 19:15
  It hurts against non-hero trash mobs. Since missing with the magical portion could mean the difference between killing 5 monsters with one smash + thread and killing 4 monsters with one smash + thread.
  
  But against bosses that doesn't matter. And against hero mobs you'll want those guys down on the ground so it helps.
• Conor wrote on 2011-09-29 19:26
  The guide I think only says that it may be harmful because it may mess up your combos due to it killing mobs before getting snap ready, but I'm pretty sure that's either inaccurate or can be overlooked.
• voltar wrote on 2011-09-30 05:07
  to clarify, it's because the upswing (non-magic) part of the smash could crit and knock the target out of the MAtt smash and prevent you from being able to get your 'E' yank in there.
  
  but i think it's excessive anxiety. though i never leveled it beyond F and only did scythe for about 15-20 levels, i never noticed upswings crit anything out of the MAtt smash aoe. that being said, i'd have to say that it's probably about as big a priority as defense mastery and stuff.
• sakraycore wrote on 2011-09-30 10:44
  Defense mastery is great though I love it.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2011-09-30 12:58
  > Was watching you rank Def Mastery, at least for Lanns Def Mastery works, for Evies with their mana shields that would be OP.
• Invertex wrote on 2011-09-30 19:15

  Quote from MareneCorp;603893:

  > Was watching you rank Def Mastery, at least for Lanns Def Mastery works, for Evies with their mana shields that would be OP.

  
  
  420 Defense is fairly minor when it usually can only bring an Evie (using Cloth/Light) up to around ~4000 Defense at best. (Might be wrong here)
  It's a good skill for everyone, but it tends to favour classes who already have a sizeable amount of defense already. I've had it maxed for a while since it is one of the nicer AP sinks.
• sakraycore wrote on 2011-09-30 20:06
  indeed i have 4k def right now, and it's good for the trash dailies at least. i have 2.7k with rose drop set, which is enough for those trash colhen dailies.
• voltar wrote on 2011-10-01 05:07

  Quote from MareneCorp;603893:

  > Was watching you rank Def Mastery...

  
  
  ok that's kinda creepy. i didn't mean to say that def mastery is not good, just lower priority than most things. my evie and is out of staff **** to level atm so i've been doing the int/agi r8-6 and def/stoneskin for ap on her.
  
  maybe crit mastery is lower priority than def mastery then. never touched it on my evie.