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Okami wrote on 2011-10-07 17:20
So, I'm around Level 14 Dark Knight.
I've been wondering for awhile... if I put a point into the 2nd trans, will I still be able to rank things in my first trans tier? Or will I just be limited to only being able to rank the 2nd trans?
Hopefully that makes sense..! And hopefully this hasn't been asked.. I've searched and found nothing on it.
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whocares8128 wrote on 2011-10-07 17:36
There is nothing to keep you from spending points in anything you have unlocked. This includes going back and capping tier 1 skills after you put points in tier 2.
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Okami wrote on 2011-10-07 19:48
Woo!
I know what my next point is going into next, then. Thanks for the help!
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voltar wrote on 2011-10-08 07:55
matter of fact (unless something's changed) you can't put anything into the 2nd trans until lvl 20+
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Okami wrote on 2011-10-08 16:47
Quote from voltar;612471:
matter of fact (unless something's changed) you can't put anything into the 2nd trans until lvl 20+
I'm not sure. For the last few levels of DK, there has always been a blue box around 2nd trans, so I figured I could use it if I choose it.
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Invertex wrote on 2011-10-08 17:14
Unlocking 2nd Stage is an exception to that. It only requires you to be Lv. 11 to put the point in.
In order to start boosting 2nd Stage, you need to be Lv 21 or higher. I realy don't see a point to using 2nd Stage until you get the points into it, as the base benefits from 1st Stage to 2nd Stage are rather minor.
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MareneCorp wrote on 2011-10-08 17:21
Well, you can still use 2nd trans in cases of emergencies, like when you are at 1hp in your first trans, 2nd trans and 5 seconds later, full. Not so much, then as about the stat boosts as the usefulness for certain situations. Having it does help.
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xJac wrote on 2011-10-08 19:32
2nd trans also gives 2300 ATT and 2300 M.ATT.
That's quite a lot.
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-10-09 21:09
Quote from xJac;612842:
2nd trans also gives 2300 ATT and 2300 M.ATT.
That's quite a lot.
Yes I agree. 1st trans is so crappy, I don't even care if I trans straight into 2nd trans cuz 1st stage is so crappy.
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MareneCorp wrote on 2011-10-09 21:12
Quote from sakraycore;613840:
Yes I agree. 1st trans is so crappy, I don't even care if I trans straight into 2nd trans cuz 1st stage is so crappy.
Meh, maximize your damage output by using up the first 50 seconds of trans 1, gathering SP and stuff, 2nd trans, gather up last 2 bars, use the trans-unique move and spamspamspam.
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-10-09 21:14
Quote from MareneCorp;613843:
Meh, maximize your damage output by using up the first 50 seconds of trans 1, gathering SP and stuff, 2nd trans, gather up last 2 bars, use the trans-unique move and spamspamspam.
1st stage doesn't really increase my damage output by much , just the +700matt right now. So IDC either way. After I rank potential and some other skills it will be a bit better for me. But yea, pally kinda sucks :(
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MareneCorp wrote on 2011-10-09 21:19
Quote from sakraycore;613844:
1st stage doesn't really increase my damage output by much , just the +700matt right now. So IDC either way. After I rank potential and some other skills it will be a bit better for me. But yea, pally kinda sucks :(
Humm, for my lvl8 DK, 1500 revelation attack boost + 700 trans boost + occasional 5% steal, maxed amount stolen(or basically 1000 attack boost) + 11500 attack = about 15k attack. Not bad.
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-10-09 21:22
Quote from MareneCorp;613849:
Humm, for my lvl8 DK, 1500 revelation attack boost + 700 trans boost + occasional 5% steal, maxed amount stolen(or basically 1000 attack boost) + 11500 attack = about 15k attack. Not bad.
Ya DK is much better for dealing out more damage for sure. Pally vs DK isn't really balanced right now, I don't know why people even try to argue that.
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MareneCorp wrote on 2011-10-09 21:25
Quote from sakraycore;613852:
Ya DK is much better for dealing out more damage for sure. Pally vs DK isn't really balanced right now, I don't know why people even try to argue that.
Not to mention DK looks absolutely amazing with my armor design right now. ^.^ Pure white dark crest, 5 seconds later, complete black with an 8-pack.
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xJac wrote on 2011-10-10 04:53
Fatigue is the most important in trans (for pally)
I usually have 3 bars or full meter of SP before trans. After trans, spam DC until I use up all my stamina, cast slashing high, and repeat. After 1 min, 2nd trans if needed, and continue to dc spam.
DC spam gives so much more damage, and so much more SP than F7. The only time I would use F7 is when boss can easily one shot me, or if the boss really have little opportunity to attack.