Blagh

• Hiccup wrote on 2011-10-15 05:09
  So one of my close friends found Oxycontin in their kitchen and now their super excited over "trying it". There are 20 pills in the bottle and they took 8 out to use later. I'm kinda worried since I have friends who abused drugs, went through rehab, destroyed their future etc etc. I told em that I HAVE to be there when they try it. Though I'm still scared they might get addicted, despite me babysitting em.
  
  I already talked to them tonight about the danger of abusing drugs and **** but it didn't stop em from wanting to do it. So Monday night I get to spend watching em so they don't do something stupid/
  
  Any ideas on how to go about this?:stress:
• Ithiliel wrote on 2011-10-15 05:33
  First of all, don't let them do it. They're ****ing retarded for being so psyched out to take Oxycontin. How many friends are there that they took 8? If you can just try and find a way to take the pills from them and hide them. Obviously at this point you need to treat them like a child if they're refusing to think about this in a mature manner.
  
  If they do take them DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES let them take NyQuil with it as well. They can and will OD if they aren't already a pill popper.
  
  I would normally give more advice on this topic, but I'm sick and ****ing tired of dealing with stupid people as well as addicts lately. If it gets to the point where you need more help, call the police on them. They can get arrested for drug use since that is not their prescription.
• Strawberry wrote on 2011-10-15 05:39
  I'd agree with Ithi. Keep it away from them, and hide it from them. Drugs can seriously tear their lives apart. They're your friends, so you have a good enough reason already to stop them from doing what you think is wrong.
  
  Most chances are usually 50/50 that they get addicted to drugs on the first try at them, and that wouldn't be good. Even if you were watching over them, it would be useless if someone does get addicted, or ends up develops the habits of substance abuse. Many accidents are usually substance-related, too.
• Cannibal wrote on 2011-10-15 05:44
  Honestly, if they want to do it, they're going to do it. You may be able to stop them this time, but they're going to find a way to do it no matter what, especially considering they're so psyched to try it now. I'm not saying you shouldn't try to stop them, but don't try to be their parent, either. Some people seriously take offence to that. They're obviously old enough to make their own decisions, and slapping their hands and saying "no-no" about it will just make them want to do it more.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-10-15 07:27
  I'm mostly on Nexon's side atm, for one it's just my best friend right now. I've warned em several times about it and they understand but their reasoning was "Well ima do it once just to say I've experienced it". Which is stupid but I can't be there 24/7 to prevent it from happening especially if they already know where the bottle is hiding.
  
  Also why I'm just going to baby-sit them so they don't do anything stupid. I've already read up on it and everything so the only thing I can really do is hope they don't fall into it. If that happens..... idfk what ima do.
  
  @Lillith They aren't a pill popper, the worst they do is drink and have the occasional cig. That's it. And just my 1 best friend. I'm generalizing cause some people on the forums might know my friend (and some do) and I don't wanna have a mess created by them knowing so... just generalizing everything.
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-10-15 07:30
  I don't understand why people do all these drugs to feel amazing.
  
  I say, tell 'em not to do it. Not worth it.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-10-15 07:33
  Tried. Not working. Gonna end up doing it with or without me, I'm lucky they are waiting till I'm with em when they try it.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-10-15 07:33

  Quote from Phunkie;621268:

  I don't understand why people do all these drugs to feel amazing.
  
  I say, tell 'em not to do it. Not worth it.

  
  
  ^
  Even more so, I don't know how people are retarded enough to "want to try it once for an experience". Tell them to go bungee jumping if they want an experience.
  
  Since they don't seem to have an addictive personality, you shouldn't have to worry about too much, besides the fact they're stupid as hell.
• Phunkie wrote on 2011-10-15 07:35

  Quote from Cynic;621272:

  ^
  Even more so, I don't know how people are retarded enough to "want to try it once for an experience". Tell them to go bungee jumping if they want an experience.
  
  Since they don't seem to have an addictive personality, you shouldn't have to worry about too much, besides the fact they're stupid as hell.

  
  
  I heard of a story of a guy who did cocaine for the first time to try it and he died.
  
  I'm sorry, but I find crap like that hilarious.
  
  It's why you don't do stupid **** like drugs.
  
  Hope your friend turns out alright though.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-10-15 07:37

  Quote from Cynic;621272:

  ^
  Even more so, I don't know how people are retarded enough to "want to try it once for an experience". Tell them to go bungee jumping if they want an experience.
  
  Since they don't seem to have an addictive personality, you shouldn't have to worry about too much, besides the fact they're stupid as hell.

  
  I know their stupid, and they fully understand the consequences of what can happen considering I introduced em to my friend whose a recovering drug-addict (popped perk 30's for years). And they do have an addictive personality, but has minimal control over what they get addicted too. For years though its been cutting and drinking. I got it cut down to just drinking, and now they haven't drank in 2 weeks.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-10-15 07:42
  They do? Well, that makes it more difficult then.
  
  It's hard to say what can help, since it varies so much from person to person.. sometimes all you need is the right friend/family member/whoever to help you, while others need help from multiple people, sometimes even professionals, etc. Hell, some people get through it by will alone. (though rarely)
  
  Does he seem to respond well you just you, or are there others helping him stay off addictive substances?
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-10-15 07:46
  I've helped em through a lot of ****, and I'm the only one who hasn't abandoned em. I'm there no matter what, and that's the promise I make when someone's my friend.* We never, ever fight too just cause we know each other so well.
  
  
  My best friends > Family > General Friends > Work Buddies
  That's our list of priorities in our life.
  
  [SIZE="1"]*[S](Although some people like to take advantage of that :l different story)[/S][/SIZE]
• Cynic wrote on 2011-10-15 07:50
  On the brightside: It means he doesn't need too much help (in terms of where/who he gets it from)
  On the downside: It means you have to carry the burden alone
  
  It's good that he has such a great friend in you; not many people would do that, at all. But you've got to make sure not to get too involved-- I know how frustrating it is when they relapse or get into something else, especially if you've got your own problems to deal with.
  
  If he's at-least trying and recognizes he has a problem it makes things a lot easier. But sometimes that can all change within a matter of hours, days, weeks..
  Does he know the root of the problem/Why he's clinging to addictive substances? Is it something he has any control over? He's very likely to cling to them no matter what if it's something he can't take care of. If it's just something difficult to overcome, or he doesn't want to/is afraid to take care of it, it makes it a bit easier to deal with.
  
  But sadly, he will always be tempted to give in if there's something strong enough to make him want to.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-10-15 08:00
  Does he know the root of the problem/Why he's clinging to addictive substances?
  
  Yes, and so do I. It can't be changed until a few years down the road.
  
  Is it something he has any control over?
  Nope.
• Cynic wrote on 2011-10-15 09:45
  Aye. It's going to be hard for him to stray from the temptation, then. No matter how much of an amazing person you have by your side, it's always nagging at the back of your head. Especially if the situation is one that is erratic and gets better/worse at random.
  
  I wish I could say there's some amazing insta-fix for it, but as someone with similar experiences as his, it's a constant battle. The best you can do is find another outlet for him-- there's usually something, no matter how small or random it may be.
  
  Usually the best outlet is something he can let his additive personality out on. My non-destructive addiction? Computers. It's an addiction, yes, but at-least not harmful to me and I am in pretty good control of it. It could be anything for him; games, computers, some sort of crafts, singing, dance.. really, the possibilities are endless.
  
  It'll have to be something to occupy a lot of his time and since it's just a filler, it will obviously act similar to other addictions. But if you can at-least find another outlet, it can make a difference between that and a possible OD or some other accident.
  
  Otherwise, what you're already doing is one of the best methods.