Is your town "Occupied"

• Craddle wrote on 2011-10-19 20:22
  It will get worse before it get's better. You can quote me on that later.
• Cucurbita wrote on 2011-10-19 20:35

  Quote from Osayidan;627103:

  we graduate school with a debt
  we increase our debt to get a car/house
  we work our asses off to make ends meet
  our countries are at each other's throats all over the place.
  our politicians lie to us.
  our government doesn't work for us like it's supposed to.
  we don't want this. something needs to change for us to not be forced to live this way.

  
  
  Well.
  
  Not gonna lie, you've more or less listed the root of all of my life's problems right there.
  
  I'll be graduating with a 50~60 thousand dollar debt. I'll need to get a car and a place to live. So overall, I'm screwed.
  
  And whenever I try to use a government service, one that is promised to work, ones that my tax dollars go to keep going, they always let me down by not doing it right or taking weeks to do something very simple.
• Meikeru wrote on 2011-10-19 20:37
  Yes I do!
  
  COMO, land of the tigers/protests.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2011-10-19 20:43

  Quote from Osayidan;627103:

  
  You also have to consider that it's not easy to identify the exact problem(s). Majority of them are economic in nature but likely caused by politics. It's not everyone who has the knowledge and experience to analyze these things. The general population sees it like this:
  
  we graduate school with a debt
  we increase our debt to get a car/house
  we work our asses off to make ends meet
  our countries are at each other's throats all over the place.
  our politicians lie to us.
  our government doesn't work for us like it's supposed to.
  we don't want this. something needs to change for us to not be forced to live this way.
  
  That's basically the root of these things. We don't need a degree in politics and economics to decide that we don't like what is going on, we don't need one to express that dissatisfaction. Those who do have those degrees and understand the inner workings of those systems are likely the ones who will develop potential solutions. If it doesn't work? more protests.

  
  
  Don't forget the blame China problem parts of the general public seem to have as well.
  
  Yes, people can express their dissatisfaction all they want, but they are still hoping to try to hope for people who have that political/economic knowledge/ability to make some sort of change.
  
  However, you can put just about every problem as economical and/or political nowadays. It needs to be narrowed down.
  
  "Oh no, I can't afford to pay for my Escalade while being on Medicaid to pay for my drug abuse. MUST BE THE GOVERNMENT FAIL THAT I AM POOR."
  ^ This is how quite a few 99% are like. Seriously. At least when dealing with the public.
• Osayidan wrote on 2011-10-19 20:51

  Quote from Cucurbita;627129:

  Well.
  
  Not gonna lie, you've more or less listed the root of all of my life's problems right there.
  
  I'll be graduating with a 50~60 thousand dollar debt. I'll need to get a car and a place to live. So overall, I'm screwed.
  
  And whenever I try to use a government service, one that is promised to work, ones that my tax dollars go to keep going, they always let me down by not doing it right or taking weeks to do something very simple.

  
  
  And a **** ton of others. It's been this way for ages but people are sick of it. The "that's just how life is" excuse is not acceptable. If that's how life is and we don't like it then we want it to change.
  
  I have 18K debt from school and consider myself extremely fortunate that it's so low.
• Adelynn wrote on 2011-10-19 21:12
  I live in Los Angeles. I would think it's kind of unavoidable in such a big place.
• Okami wrote on 2011-10-19 21:15
  My town isn't but the town 15 min away is.
• Chillax wrote on 2011-10-19 21:37
  You say:
  
  

  Quote from Osayidan;627103:

  our politicians lie to us.
  our government doesn't work for us like it's supposed to.

  
  
  Yet you say:
  
  

  Quote from Osayidan;627103:

  Those who do have those degrees and understand the inner workings of those systems are likely the ones who will develop potential solutions.

  
  
  The people that know about the system are generally the people working in the system. Doesn't it sound counterproductive that the "Occupy" movement is about citizens taking matters into their own hands because they think the government is "corrupt", yet they feel comfortable leaving the decisions completely up to said government and also don't feel the need to educate themselves about the whole system in order to be better monitors of it? There needs to be a leader within this movement to do the research and present the demands, not just people asking the government to fix all these problems with no proposed direction. They may be out there, but they need to get their voices heard. Only then will this movement make any headway, because at the moment they're just rabble-rousers.
• Osayidan wrote on 2011-10-19 22:12

  Quote from Chillax;627195:

  You say:
  
  
  
  Yet you say:
  
  
  
  The people that know about the system are generally the people working in the system. Doesn't it sound counterproductive that the "Occupy" movement is about citizens taking matters into their own hands because they think the government is "corrupt", yet they feel comfortable leaving the decisions completely up to said government and also don't feel the need to educate themselves about the whole system in order to be better monitors of it? There needs to be a leader within this movement to do the research and present the demands, not just people asking the government to fix all these problems with no proposed direction. They may be out there, but they need to get their voices heard. Only then will this movement make any headway, because at the moment they're just rabble-rousers.

  
  
  Not all people with economics and law degrees are politicians. There's many professors/researchers at universities with such knowledge. There was some sort of think-tank/forum conference type of thing by some organization here either yesterday or today involving just such people to discuss the issues. Nothing probably came of it, but it's a start.
• Ithiliel wrote on 2011-10-19 22:21
  As far as I know, no. This tourist town is not being "occupied", which is surprising since we are also the Uni town. Yay for over 60k in debt!
• Skye wrote on 2011-10-19 22:24

  Quote from Lilith;627253:

  As far as I know, no. This tourist town is not being "occupied", which is surprising since we are also the Uni town. Yay for over 60k in debt!

  
  
  Hey, my town's the same, only instead of tourist, it's retirement! :D
• Ithiliel wrote on 2011-10-19 22:26

  Quote from Skye;627259:

  Hey, my town's the same, only instead of tourist, it's retirement! :D

  
  
  We're only a tourist town due to how close we are to the Grand Canyon XD Only an hour away from the south rim and about 2 and a half from the north.
• Hiccup wrote on 2011-10-19 22:48
  No, but I live in small town nobody really heard about.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2011-10-19 22:52
  OCCUPY WALL STREET! :point: Unlucky for me because my route to my tutor brings me through Wall Street.
• Chockeh wrote on 2011-10-19 22:57
  I haven't seen any of this :<.