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Archibald wrote on 2011-10-26 18:35
So I was working on my fiona and a guildy of mine saw a fiona with 14k+ def non trans in a raid... I really want to know how she did that.
The best setup I can even find (ALL + 15 plus bonuses + perfect enchants for def + all skills capped) comes out to this 12630 Def, 18073 Attack,1939 Str, 1261 agility, 1362 will (and thats with attack and def from stats added in.
Here is the set -
+ 15 black Hammer - Explosive + maelstrom enchanted
13,034 Attack
166 Dura
39 Attack Speed
30 crit
78 str
47 Will
weight 44
Balance 60+ Bonus
Large Shield -Grand Cross +15 - Extreme + Revolve ES
2702 Def
+100 HP
-685 Attack
179 Weight
166 Dura
+ 7 Crit resist
+32 Str
+15 Agility
+85 Willpower
Accessories
Evil monsters Leather Belt
68 str
49 Agility
66 int
60 wil
Shield Badge (earing placement)
71 str
3 agility
3 int
3 will
Ocean's Embrace X 2 (reflected in stats)
200 Def
80 str
80 agility
80 int
80 Will
4x access Enchants
Prefix -Warlords
130 Def
6 str
6 int
Suffix - passion Es X 4
200 Def
2 stam
Armor Set - Black Hammer ALL + 15 + set bonus
Tutelary + Armadillo for the Boots and gloves (since they are heavy armor not plate)
Tutelary + sentinal for other 3 parts (since they are plate)
6821 Def
60 crit resist
618 Str
201 Agility
114 will
250 HP
-75 attack
Stats from skills and cadet badge
Str mastery - 223 str
Def mastery - 420 Def
Agility mastery- 223 agility
Willpower mastery - 223 will
Plate Armor mastery - 177 Def
critical hit mastery - +22% crit
Cadet badge - 600 Def
Total Def Stat- 1,197
ALL TITLES POSSIBLE NON EVENT
709 Str
707 Will
672 Agility
1360 HP
655 int
Base stats
564 Att
29 str
18 agi
43 will
10 crit
Well thats how I got my numbers. Does anyone have improvements to that? I would love to make a goal of 15k Def and 18k Attack for my endgame setup.
:chin:
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-10-26 18:37
with 15k def do you even need to dodge anymore? lmfao
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Archibald wrote on 2011-10-26 18:40
Quote from sakraycore;636168:
with 15k def do you even need to dodge anymore? lmfao
That's kinda the idea. If you know me at all from mabinogi I created a build called the mana master. It involved the maximum defense + mana shield + pot poisen + magic and alchemy as the ultimate solo artist.
Also remember if you don't dodge your gear breaks...so eventually your def will be back to normal if you don't repair it in mission or dodge and block correctly. But My philosophy is always that of survival first. Plus if you look...18k Attack ain't shabby as a goal either.
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-10-26 19:14
Why'd you get banned in mabinogi anyways? X.X
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Royale wrote on 2011-10-26 19:51
are you sure it's 14k def and not 14k attack?
i am pretty sure 14k def is impossible right now
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Archibald wrote on 2011-10-26 21:26
Quite sure cause he double checked it several times and was amazed. I think there are likely a few changes to that set I could make and get 13k Def. But that was me running the numbers fast.
I got banned in mabinogi for unknown specific reasons. I think its because I was one of the richest players on server and bought lots of things that may have been questionable. Also I had a friend log into my account and possibly did something that got reported BUT even if what he may have did, did get reported getting a perma ban for a minor infraction would be surprising. I was angry then enraged but when I think back it will probrably be for the better. Vindictus is far easier to pick up and put down than mabi was and I am far more productive in real life (college) since being banned.
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Royale wrote on 2011-10-26 21:44
Quote from Archibald;636403:
Quite sure cause he double checked it several times and was amazed. I think there are likely a few changes to that set I could make and get 13k Def. But that was me running the numbers fast.
well the person is ether a gm or is hacking, i am positive nobody in vind has a +15 set much less than a perfect enchanted one.
oh and you might want to reconsider your goals, unlike mabi, endgame vind is just pay2win. so unless you plan to spent thousands of dollars on vind i suggest you just enjoy the game and don't worry about damage/def
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Archibald wrote on 2011-10-26 21:59
I always play for endgame. I expect i'll have a long time to do it and am not in some huge rush. But i always set high goals.
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Intimacy wrote on 2011-10-26 22:02
Ehh, personally with my 5+ grand cross ingkells bh set. 10+ bh hammer im ornate and valoring later. My passion ghost ring, significant nose ring, thor belt knights ring and crest i can get 7k defense and 13.3k attack. I no longer need to spend any more money on vindi besides protection runes for ornate until ep: dragon.
Total amount of nx spent on vindi to this date. around 45k. 25k of that was for a new look since i got sick of the default look yesterday so i got nx to change it to something pretty.
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Invertex wrote on 2011-10-26 22:21
The main reason this is unreasonable is the sheer number of +15s you would need for this set. There is no easy NX way out, the only way would be to constantly blow up perfectly good +10 Armor (that can take about 8k NX to even make) until the RNG is successful 5 times in a row.
And isn't mixing Black Hammer and Ingkells the best for defense? This might open up a few more Tutelary Sentinel slots too. But I'm not good with min-maxing, so I'll let someone else come in with that.
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Gotejjeken wrote on 2011-10-27 00:29
Yeah BH/Ingkells is the best for DEF. Can probably get to 9-10k without spending too much in the way of NX if you are willing to farm a bit and blow up a few pieces on the way to +10. I'm at 7.3k DEF now with +5's and a large shield (chiulin), and no sentinel/tute/warlord on anything.
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MareneCorp wrote on 2011-10-27 00:45
Hello Archi xD I'm not sure anymore, but from my speculation the named Fiona should have quite a lot of AGI, since that adds to defense. So, increase your agility somewhat too.
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Royale wrote on 2011-10-27 00:53
8~11k def is easy to get, anything above that is nx grind or luck.
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Archibald wrote on 2011-10-27 01:49
Quote from Gotejjeken;636711:
Yeah BH/Ingkells is the best for DEF. Can probably get to 9-10k without spending too much in the way of NX if you are willing to farm a bit and blow up a few pieces on the way to +10. I'm at 7.3k DEF now with +5's and a large shield (chiulin), and no sentinel/tute/warlord on anything.
Ah cool I'll check out the combos. thanks. And those are the maxed stats that I could find using all the titles available to fiona + base stats + mastery so im not sure how much more agi yuo can get + isnt it 1 def = 2 agi? which means like 2000 more agi which...not happening.
Edit 1:ok checked out the stats and combining 2 ingkells with 3 black hammer will give you nearly 450 more def when maxed out. Bringing the total over 13k def now.
Edit 2: replacing 1 ocean embrace ring with a ghostly ring and using thor belt gives additional 55 def at the sacrifice of 40ish str.
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sakraycore wrote on 2011-10-27 12:55
i'd never sacrifice main stat for def at 1:1 ratio lol, but maybe that's cuz i'm evie and i dont care about def that much.