Carpentry, an annoying skill handbook

• Cheerios wrote on 2011-11-09 11:23
  Honestly this skill doesn't need a guide, all you have to do is chop chop chop till your life drains out to r1 this. However there's some stuff that need to be said. Anyway less chitchat
  
  Updated Nov 17th
  Getting started
  
  Obtaining the skill (copy pasta from wiki)
  Talk to Tracy in Dugald Aisle using the [Skills] Keyword to start the quest.
  
  

  
  
  1. Equip a Lumber Axe. (It says purchase but only requires equipping)
     
  2. Gather one Average Firewood.
     
  3. Deliver the Average Firewood to Tracy.
     

Recommended gear:
Not only for carpentry but for all life skills that require collecting. A luck set, yes luck set. Since g13 we can get small and huge production bonuses as we always did with money, so more luck we have the best. So if you ever get an average wood or fine wood huge lucky, that will be a LOT of wood you wont have to chop.

Accessories: Thief posh accessories (25 luck ea)
Surprising can be a real pain to get considering it's on rundal adv hm. If you dont want to go through the hassle of getting it, you can set for thief posh for easy 25 luck

Hat : Thief Lucky [headgear goes here]

Clothes : Thief white horse/restful [Clothes go here]
Obviously no one is mad enough to waste white horse or ancient for a luck set, if you have one wear it. If you don't you can just set for a thief restful clothing.
Why not ancient? Unless you're using ancient flamerider, you can't wear 2 accessories with it.

Shoes : Thief xxxxxxx [shoes go here]
Yes you can only wear thief on these

Gloves : Thief Lucky person [gloves go here]
Lucky person can be a real pain to enchant, easiest way to enchant it its to overwrite on top of mana hammer (both drop from monsters with the ancient title)
Be sure you have r3+ fishing before you go for this enchant. For those who don't know about it

Prefix r6
If Fishing Rank 3+, Luck+25~40
Personalize

The lumber axe
Enchants : you can only thief it, so just do it

Edit : Nov 14th

An suggestion by asao

Quote from Asao;659358:

I'll add a few more suggestions for +luck set that is a lot harder to get than what you listed:

Lumber Axe: Rainbow (+15)
Hat: Lucky (+15) Bandit (+25)
Clothes: Ancient (+20) Diligent (+25) Flamerider Outfit
Shoes: Charm (+15)

*Note: Since Evasion is still capped, its currently impossible to get the luck bonus for robber

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[/SIZE][/SIZE] Upgrades :
As for g14s4ex/g15s1 update Lumber axes are upgradeable however i seriously don't recommend it, they'll become ridiculously expensive to repair and you'll spend more repairing it than buying fine wood honestly. In the case you still want to do it, only do the 4 1st speed upgrades, it will save you 1 second of chopping wood and the repair cost is still sustainable at low % npcs (~40k per 12 points)

Personally i did the fine wood upgrade and from testing i didn't noticed any difference per axe dura

Titles
Obviously you'll want luck titles. If you missed your chance of getting the "in wonderland" (+30 luck) there are some others you can still wear for more luck such as "the crystal collector", "the lucky", "who seduced a succubus", "who saved the goddess" (humans only) and "the one who discovered karu ruins"

Why not "King of fishing", "the ambidextrous", "the super dilligent", "tara seal breaker" and "the beta tester"?
King of fishing and ambidex eat a lot of stamina, which you'll use during collection. The other 3 they're too hard or impossible to get right now so just forget them.

For faster collection speed you might want to check out "the busy" title which increases collection speed by 3%

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[SIZE=2]As mabi becomes more pay2win, metalware was today released. Not going to explain metalware and how it works, just pointing out the ones that affect carpentry.

Carpentry has 3 different metalwares, which all go into the woodworking plane

1st is the lovely xp increase per requirement done.

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This will increase the amount of points one can get after filling an requirement. Here's an example for r1 with an lv 2 xp increase
without

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With

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... Higher the lv, higher the xp increase and so on, easier carpentry becomes to rank. Possibly to be even able to skip the annoying fine bow making

2nd most useful is the one that increases your bow quality. The only thing it does its making fine grades pop more often.
Since it appears untranslated, it comes out like this
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3rd and last possible metalware is the possibility to increase your bow creation speed. Rather useless imo but incase you want to make carpentry easy mode you can always use this together with 2x xp pots
It appears untranslated as well
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It is possible to get carpentry enhancements on another pieces of equipment as well, however there are rumors that they wont stack with same lv ones. For example if you managed to get lv 2 xp on accessory and lv 2 xp on plane, they wont stack

Carpentry basics
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[SIZE=3]Dat wood
Throughout carpentry you'll have to chop a LOT of wood and refine that wood into average, that average into fine and that fine into finest

The conversion rate is
3 regular wood > 1 average wood
3 average wood > 1 fine wood
3 fine wood > 1 finest

To summarize, to make 1 finest you'll need 3 fine wood which needs 9 average wood which needs 27 regular wood pieces

[/SIZE][/SIZE][LEFT][SIZE=2][SIZE=3]Dem bows[/SIZE][/SIZE]
As you get r9 you'll be able to make bows, you don't really need to make them at r9 but you'll need at r8. Here's a list of all mats

Short bow
2x Fine wood
2x Thick thread ball

Elven short bow
3x Fine wood
3x Large nails
3x Thick thread ball

Long bow
5x Fine wood
3x Thick thread ball
1x Cheap leather straps

Composite bow
8x Fine wood
2x Thick thread ball
2x Thin thread ball

Guardian bow
4x Fine wood
1x Finest wood
2x Tough string

Elven Long Bow
3x Fine wood
2x Fine wood
1x Tough string
2x Iron ingot

Leather Long bow
5x Fine wood
3x Finest firewood
3x Thick thread ball
1x Fine leather

Crossbow
6x Finest wood
1x Tough string
10x Large nails
1x Common leather

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Bow grades
(writting this from mind, if i forgot any or if you can provide the correction please tell me :v)

All bows you make will have a random chance of obtaining stats depending their resulting quality

F- Grade : "With some repairs it might become usable" They're the same as npc but with dura loss, as if they were used already

Base grade : Exact same thing as npc, message will pop up saying its the same as sold around

B Grade : Message pops up mentioning its a bit better than sold around

A Grade : You'll hate this message while making fine grade bows, "your hard work has paid off". Usually these bows come out signed, have higher max, dura and crit. They usually come out signed

A+ Grade (aka the fine grade) : "A godly bow has been created" These bows have the highest max possible and are the only ones that count for the fine grade requirement. These will always be signed

S Grade : The best of the best possible to create, these bows are quite rare to pop up and they have the highest crit and dura than the rest. (+2% crit and +1 dura than A+ bows). These will always be signed

[SIZE=3]Ok already know i'll have to chop lots of wood. But what about the rest?
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Note : If you don't have weaving, money or any way of rafting/ballooning either you'll be dependent of others or better you don't start r8+ carpentry at all

For bows you'll require lots of wood and other materials, here i'll pinpoint you the best ways of getting all materials so you wont get lost

Large nails : Ok before all be prepared to get carpal tunnel syndrome.
Remember those big rocks back at port ceann? Hit them, they drop nails like no tomorrow

Thick threads : If you can't range, but can weave. Trap some sheeps back at emain and start shearing. If you can balloon, grab some friends, get 2~3 big stars and wing all of them back to calida camp. You'll get 1 stack per person you bring with you

Thin threads : Same as the above, for ballooning you'll need between 1.1~2 big stars to get thin threads

Iron ingots : Once again if you can range, go raft. You only need 16~18 small stars to get 10 iron ingots

Leather :
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• Cheap : Remember those desert ghosts in filia? Hunt them, they drop cheap leather often. If you need a LOT i recommend you to go to ant hell
  
• Common : Once again, rafting. 2~3 small stars grant you 5 common leather
  
• Fine : shadow cast city adv
  

Increasing success rate and fine grade output

THE most important thing about carpentry is to not fail, you'll lose a lot of wood every time you fail. And trust me, even with 99% you will fail a lot (carpentry RNG sucks literally, don't be fooled by high %s). So be sure to :

1. Abuse production parties, if you know somebody with high carpentry rank ask that person to join the party if you need. Higher rank people add more % than randoms without carpentry at all
   
2. Mondays. When you reach r4 you'll always want to make your bows on mondays. Asides increasing success rate, monday production bonus will also increase your fine grade output, so more fine grades per tries = less wood chopping
   
3. Weather. Wait for a rainy day to refine wood and make bows. You can find the weather forecast at http://mabinogi.or.tl/eltf Remember that dugald has the same weather as Tir.
   
4. Don't be fooled by short bows. Elven short bow, even if it uses more mats, have higher chance of ending fine grade than short bows. ~10% imo (personally i would get at least 1 per 10 ESB i would make)
   
   Before starting the torture, any advice?
   
   [SIZE=2]Yes, quite a few actually
   
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   1. Take your time, chill, watch a movie, listen to music while chopping wood. Not doing so will drive you insane
      
   2. Take breaks now and then to keep your sanity, don't rush.
      
   3. Always make the finest wood first
      
   4. If you actually plan to r1 carpentry, do not sell your fine and finest wood when you have low rank as you'll need it
      
   5. Like said before, DO NOT upgrade your axe unless you want to pay over 100k on repairs
      
   6. If you're planning to upgrade it, repair your axe on any iria tool NPCs till its fully proffed, udlah NPCs will make sure to break it at least once on each repair. After upgrading repair at Malcom (Tir tool shop) for affordable repairs
      
   7. DO NOT WASTE NX for bows. Bows take a long time to make (30+ sec per bow) and 2x production pots only last 10 mins. Unless you won the lottery or like to feed nexon money grubbers, do not use 2x production pots for bows
      
   8. Brionac isn't worth it as it loses 6 dura per use on carpentry. Waste of AP on repairs
      
   9. On mondays, on the channel with the most people on production party, you'll probably find dugald a big crowded. So don't be a dick to others. Pick 2-3 groups of chopping blocks and farm those. When you're done with 1 the other should've restocked already
      
   10. Homestead blocks are worthless, don't waste stones and wood on those
       
   11. If your math says "you need 10 stacks of xxx mat" make that 12. You will fail, even at 99%
       
   12. Don't be fooled by double rainbows. You'll get more fine grade bows on a monday. Make your finest wood on DRs if you need, never your bows.
       
       
       Starting to chop
       
       rN > rF : finish the quest lol
       
       rF > r9 : Nothing really to guide here, these ranks are all chop > refine wood all day
       Remember to increase your success %. Fine and finest wood have a real LOW success rate and carpentry success rng is really low. So gather up all % you can get before refining wood
       
       r8 > r5 : Focus in making bows and in making fine and finest wood. All the rest comes by itself. Remember, save all the fine and finest wood. You'll need for further ranks.
       
       r4 : THE HELL RANK. All skills have one of these >>.
       And such coincidence. 1st rank you'll have to make a fine grade bow.
       
       Make ~120 pieces of fine wood and keep them till monday comes. After you're done with those start making finest wood.
       Once monday comes, use up all the fine and finest wood and make all guardian bows and pray for the best
       Depending on the number of fine graded guardian bows you'll get. You should end up with ~80 ish points. Finish this rank by finishing the fine wood requirement and making the remaining fine grade elven short bows.
       
       Estimated remaining fine grade = 10~12
       Estimated required elven short bows = 100~120
       all material costs are higher than the above indicated to already include failures (and bad luck)
       Estimated material cost = 35 stacks of fine wood and nails / 70 stacks of thick threads
       
       r3 : No more help from fine wood ;_;
       And again finish your finest wood and bows. If you didn't got enough fine grade bows, finish the remaining with elven short bows.
       
       Estimated remaining fine grade = 5~8
       Estimated required elven short bows = 50~80
       all material costs are higher than the above indicated to already include failures (and bad luck)
       Estimated material cost = 28 stacks of wood and nails / 36 stacks of thick threads
       
       r2 : Just this last one
       Finally finish all your finest wood and bows and as you're done you should lack 22 fine grade bows for r1.
       Estimated remaining fine grade = 10~15
       Estimated required elven short bows = 100~150
       all material costs are higher than the above indicated to already include failures (and bad luck)
       Estimated material cost = 40 stacks of fine wood and nails / 80 stacks of thick threads
       
       r1 : time for master huh?
       Good luck in making 400 fine grades.
       That's only, in average, 4000 bows :v
       
       
       
       Ending note
       
       Carpentry is easy, it's just really repetitive and time consuming. But with patience it is possible and its kinda fun when it comes to make bows