Usefulness of White Wing Staff.

• Azareel wrote on 2011-11-13 20:13
  Not really a guide, but certainly a thought, for anyone who likes using staffs a lot. Hadn't seen anyone mention it, so I will.
  
  We all know the White Wing Staff gains elemental charges with fewer bolts than the Trinity, and it seems that it might be able to hold charges longer as well (yet to be tested).
  On the downside, the White Wing apparently can't be Special Upgraded, so it loses damage potential in comparison to the Trinity.
  
  But, it seems that no-one has noticed that you can get the best of both worlds. Staff charges are actually a "status" type of thing on your character, not the staff. With this is mind...
  
  1. Charge element with a Wing.
  2. Swap to a Trinity.
  3. Fight with said Trinity.
  4. Swap back to Wing to retain charges for longer (untested).
  5. Repeat 1-4 until you win (the game).
  
  And there you have it.
• Navy wrote on 2011-11-13 20:14
  never thought about that :what:
  thanks
• Armi wrote on 2011-11-13 20:46
  It's like crown ice wand swaps ... lol.
• Justified wrote on 2011-11-13 21:06

  Quote from Armi;659382:

  It's like crown ice wand swaps ... lol.

  
  
  That was patched about a month ago.
  
  
  This isn't really all that useful. Wing Staff only saves 1-2 bolts, not really worth the weapon swapping or 1.2m Ducats.
• Azareel wrote on 2011-11-13 21:21

  Quote from Justified;659397:

  This isn't really all that useful. Wing Staff only saves 1-2 bolts, not really worth the weapon swapping or 1.2m Ducats.

  
  
  It's for the people who would get one anyway, like me.
  
  And, 1~2 fewer bolts can save you from having to deal with excess aggro. If you're going to use Trin, and you have a Wing, there's no real reason to not use this.
• Justified wrote on 2011-11-13 21:33

  Quote from Azareel;659416:

  It's for the people who would get one anyway, like me.
  
  And, 1~2 fewer bolts can save you from having to deal with excess aggro. If you're going to use Trin, and you have a Wing, there's no real reason to not use this.

  
  
  The Wing Staff is really just a waste of Ducats is what I'm saying. Even if you do buy it, it's still a hassle to either waste your auxiliary slot or fiddle with your inventory open during battle or every time you need a charge. And if you're in a multi-aggro situation, you should really have your staff pre-aligned anyways.
  
  If it works for you, then more power to you. But it's still not that great of a tactic or worth the hours of Ducats.
• Azareel wrote on 2011-11-13 21:43

  Quote from Justified;659434:

  The Wing Staff is really just a waste of Ducats is what I'm saying.

  
  
  Most people already know this. I got it mostly for looks, then realized this 'feature'.
  
  Also, since the Wing Staff can charge easier, it's a little more suitable for PvP than a Trinity (not that either is particularly desirable by itself).
  Of course, since I don't PvP a lot, that wasn't a concern of mine.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2011-11-13 22:18

  Quote from Azareel;659449:

  Most people already know this. I got it mostly for looks, then realized this 'feature'.
  
  Also, since the Wing Staff can charge easier, it's a little more suitable for PvP than a Trinity (not that either is particularly desirable by itself).
  Of course, since I don't PvP a lot, that wasn't a concern of mine.

  
  
  The White Wing Staff is pretty much completely outclassed by the Trinity Staff come G15S2. This information may be useful now (it's certainly interesting) but with that update, the White Wing Staff becomes a fashionogi item.
• Azareel wrote on 2011-11-13 22:23

  Quote from Kaeporo;659517:

  The White Wing Staff is pretty much completely outclassed by the Trinity Staff come G15S2. This information may be useful now (it's certainly interesting) but with that update, the White Wing Staff becomes a fashionogi item.

  
  
  Is there some change to Trinities that I don't know about in S2? Or, are you referring to the Mana Evap removal...?
• Kaeporo wrote on 2011-11-13 23:13

  Quote from Azareel;659533:

  Is there some change to Trinities that I don't know about in S2? Or, are you referring to the Mana Evap removal...?

  
  
  The mana evaporation removal update is what i'm referring to. There are only two reasons to use staves over wands.
  
  1. You intend to use Hail Storm.
  2. You need improved damage over reduced load duration or mana reduction when using Thunder/Fireball.
  
  The Trinity Staff deals more damage than the White Wing staff when using Hail Storm and intermediate magic. It's grossly superior.
• Azareel wrote on 2011-11-13 23:20

  Quote from Kaeporo;659633:

  The mana evaporation removal update is what i'm referring to. There are only two reasons to use staves over wands.
  
  1. You intend to use Hail Storm.
  2. You need improved damage over reduced load duration or mana reduction when using Thunder/Fireball.
  
  The Trinity Staff deals more damage than the White Wing staff when using Hail Storm and intermediate magic. It's grossly superior.

  
  
  Ah, I figured that.
  I'll still probably main a staff (Unless I really need to pull out every bit of power I can), just for visual appeal.
• Justified wrote on 2011-11-14 00:50

  Quote from Kaeporo;659633:

  The mana evaporation removal update is what i'm referring to. There are only two reasons to use staves over wands.
  
  1. You intend to use Hail Storm.
  2. You need improved damage over reduced load duration or mana reduction when using Thunder/Fireball.
  
  The Trinity Staff deals more damage than the White Wing staff when using Hail Storm and intermediate magic. It's grossly superior.

  
  
  Those apply now, regardless of Mana Evap or not. So the Trinity Staff is already superior.
  Your points only illustrate Staff vs Wand, not Staff vs Staff.
  
  In the case of Intermediate Magic, Staves are only useful for Thunder, and only if you're fighting something strong enough that the MP Reduction Crystal Wand can't handle it. Speedcasting Crystal Wand is a joke, the ~0.4 second speed boost isn't worth the ~18% damage loss over a Staff.
  Then again Thunder is pretty lackluster in general, and is a support skill at best.
• Retard wrote on 2011-11-15 01:36

  Quote from Justified;659689:

  Those apply now, regardless of Mana Evap or not. So the Trinity Staff is already superior.
  Your points only illustrate Staff vs Wand, not Staff vs Staff.
  
  In the case of Intermediate Magic, Staves are only useful for Thunder, and only if you're fighting something strong enough that the MP Reduction Crystal Wand can't handle it. Speedcasting Crystal Wand is a joke, the ~0.4 second speed boost isn't worth the ~18% damage loss over a Staff.
  Then again Thunder is pretty lackluster in general, and is a support skill at best.

  
  
  
  Thunder-> Hailstorm <3
• Vejosa wrote on 2011-11-20 18:36

  Quote from Purrz24;660795:

  Thunder-> Hailstorm <3

  
  in some situations, yes
  in others, no
  
  also i thought white wing staff also boost mp regen? read this on mabidata.
• Vejosa wrote on 2011-11-20 18:36

  Quote from Purrz24;660795:

  Thunder-> Hailstorm <3

  
  in some situations, yes
  in others, no
  
  also i thought white wing staff also boost mp regen? read this on mabidata.