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Skye wrote on 2012-01-14 20:35
Oh my gosh, everyone kept dying. I had used 3 feathers and a party before he was ever even half dead. There was one point where only myself and this Lann who could tank Glas were alive. Then he got caught with low stam and died, then I died. Then we needed an assist.
:stress:
On a related note, how much defense does Glas have? Because there was one level 70 staff Evie who only had 7792 MATK. I was WTF'ing.
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Invertex wrote on 2012-01-14 20:36
I think Glas has somewhere in the region of 6.2k-7k defense, not sure on the exact number though. 7.8k M.Att is really low for a Lv. 61 though.
The only really bad Glas run I remember is when I got 50% damage in a 6 man.
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Skye wrote on 2012-01-14 20:41
I got 2nd damage on this run, after the tanking Lann. And I thought Glas'd have more defense than that, huh...
But yeah, I don't even know how she could have that low of a number.
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Yanm wrote on 2012-01-14 20:54
Guessign her weapon isn't even enhanced. . .did you happen to see which one it was? What was she wearing also? I wish I could've been in that party. I'd have saved the day +best.
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Invertex wrote on 2012-01-14 21:06
Quote from Skye;735862:
I got 2nd damage on this run, after the tanking Lann. And I thought Glas'd have more defense than that, huh...
But yeah, I don't even know how she could have that low of a number.
Most daily raids have around 6k-7k Defense, which is the region I tend to use for aproximation. Only Lionotus has a higher value, which I'm unsure about.
If the person was still using a +0 Ivory Staff, which is 4.2k M.Att, you'd still need 3.6k MAtt, or about 1800 Int. But I'm not sure how a Lv. 70 would only have an Ivory, let alone a +0 instead of a +5 (which, while only 100 M.Att, is still enough to spend about 100k or less to get).
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Oizen wrote on 2012-01-14 21:07
How do you fail glas? xD
He's so easy.
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Invertex wrote on 2012-01-14 21:11
Quote from OizenX;735881:
How do you fail glas? xD
He's so easy.
He's only easy since he's really easy to force into a 3-6 minute long loop of stuns in a Party of 8 with Trans.
Glas with 6 or fewer people, nobody willing to use Ballista, nobody grabbing Goddess Judgements, and nobody using trans. That's what some parties end up like, and usually those are the ones that have trouble (since he is a decently dangerous boss... when he actually attacks).
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Yanm wrote on 2012-01-14 21:13
Quote from OizenX;735881:
How do you fail glas? xD
He's so easy.
When you have no experience with him, or have a bad connection. That can easily make him a pain. I have neither though, and I personally love fighting Glas. Except for 8 mans, I HATE THOSE SO MUCH! Oh, and maybe if that person is an Evie because. . .in my entire time of fighting Glas, I've only seen 1-2 Evies that have only died once or twice. Every other Evie just dies in a heartbeat. I keep telling them Glas hates Evies D:. . .
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Skye wrote on 2012-01-14 21:14
I think she had a teten staff...I guess it must've been not enhanced at all.
But I think I was the only one who got spears, and someone would get on bali every once in a while, it seemed like...I know I did it twice, but by that time all the harpoon thingies were gone, so I couldn't really stay on it.
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Invertex wrote on 2012-01-14 21:17
Quote from Skye;735894:
I think she had a teten staff...I guess it must've been not enhanced at all.
But I think I was the only one who got spears, and someone would get on bali every once in a while, it seemed like...I know I did it twice, but by that time all the harpoon thingies were gone, so I couldn't really stay on it.
That's just a bit weird then. Teten has 6k M.Att base. You'd only need 1.2k M.Att more, which is about 600 Int.
How does an Evie only have 600 Int at Lv. 70, I will never know.
I'm guessing grabs/crit grabs just went through most of the party since without Ballista and Spears, that tends to happen.
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Oizen wrote on 2012-01-14 21:21
Quote from Invertex;735885:
He's only easy since he's really easy to force into a 3-6 minute long loop of stuns in a Party of 8 with Trans.
Glas with 6 or fewer people, nobody willing to use Ballista, nobody grabbing Goddess Judgements, and nobody using trans. That's what some parties end up like, and usually those are the ones that have trouble (since he is a decently dangerous boss... when he actually attacks).
I dont see why anyone wouldn't use the goddess spears or ballista. But I see your point.
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Yanm wrote on 2012-01-14 21:26
Quote from OizenX;735907:
I dont see why anyone wouldn't use the goddess spears or ballista. But I see your point.
To make it more challenging. Me and 2 of my guildies never do 8 man Glas. We always do 6 or fewer or less. We use the ballistae for the break, and then refuse to use it after that. However, one of them complains when we try to not use Goddess Spears, so we do end up using them, but mostly to save people. I'd much prefer to just use normal spears and hit his hands than goddess though. . .
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Invertex wrote on 2012-01-14 21:34
Quote from OizenX;735907:
I dont see why anyone wouldn't use the goddess spears or ballista. But I see your point.
In addition to the above, there are also people who don't even know what they do. Too many times I see nobody else grab the Goddess Spears.
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Excalibur wrote on 2012-01-14 21:45
Bah, I wish I had the guts to enchant my staff. It's still at +4 >:
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MareneCorp wrote on 2012-01-14 21:52
That's... not as bad as some parties I've been with. On my Evie(I really suck at any class other than Lann) this 8man glas party used all of their feathers before Glas got tired, the final bar most of us died after getting assists over and over...