The oldest question about ADV Magics

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Kazuni wrote on 2010-07-09 07:34

Quote from Justified;86580:
Full training exp refers to the experience point bonus you get when ranking the skill.
Meaning, the bonus that nobody pays attention to because it doesn't help at all - until Rank 1 where you get a Master Title.

Indeed you can rank straight through the skill after resetting it.

Mkay, but "not gain full training exp from ranking it again."

:what:
IceBlade wrote on 2010-07-09 12:46

If you used a skill reset capsule, it'll show at 100% trained, but you'll get 0 exp when you rank it up again.
Justified wrote on 2010-07-09 13:48

Quote from Kazuni;86725:
Mkay, but "not gain full training exp from ranking it again."

:what:

If you're still confused, it's talking about this.

[Image: http://i30.tinypic.com/2djo4co.jpg]

You don't get that +4 Experience Points the second time you rank the skill up.
rinaek wrote on 2010-07-10 17:08

Quote from Odinwolfe;86479:
Firstly, thanks for the input.
I can solo raft and get 12 big stars with rank 9 Thunder, is this good?
I sold the speed L-wand I had, when I was broke.

Also, do you make your own potions? My potion skill is balls, although my wife is ranking her potion skill currently.
Mana herbs are relatively easy to obtain as i can make them with synthesis and gather them from pets/ dungeons.

Any advice on the potion situation? I don't exactly have 2m to blow on herbs to rank the skill myself.

It's good for rank 9 Thunder, I guess, but really, rank 9 doesn't compare to rank 6. The extra damage and extra hit on the first bolt of thunder makes everything much faster.
I can usually hit a total of 16 big stars per raft run with r6 and a speedcast wand (upgrade another one, they make a difference)

Yes, I make my own potions, and I get all of my herbs through rafting. At 16-18 stars (3 big, 1-3 small), you can get iron ingots, and quarter of the time, that also comes with a stack of mana herbs. After about an hour of rafting, I typically have about 5 stacks of mana herbs, plus enough iron ingots to buy another 10 stacks of herbs.

There's really no need to rank up potion making too much. Rank C is actually quite sufficient: on a Monday, with rank 1 Production Mastery, you can get an 85% success rate for MP100's. In a production party, you can easily pull that up to 95%+.

That should be enough MP pots to last you 4 Ciar Adv runs using nothing but adv. magic.
Kazuni wrote on 2010-07-10 17:11

Quote from Justified;87010:
If you're still confused, it's talking about this.

[Image: http://i30.tinypic.com/2djo4co.jpg]

You don't get that +4 Experience Points the second time you rank the skill up.

I was talking about the skill exp itself. If you rank it after deranking you still have to train it again.
Justified wrote on 2010-07-11 03:57

Quote from Kazuni;88150:
I was talking about the skill exp itself. If you rank it after deranking you still have to train it again.

Except you don't. All ranks you had before will be fully trained, up until the original rank.

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