What do you think about Feminism?

• Milk wrote on 2012-01-25 23:40

  Quote from Osayidan;748703:

  I'm for true gender equality. Not feminism.
  And I mean literal equality. If dudes can punch each other in the shoulder and change/shower together now, then literal gender equality would mean men and women can do it too. If dudes can talk about female genitals while having lunch, then they shouldn't have to shut up and act innocent when female coworkers come in out of fear of sexual harassment claims.
  
  I don't see feminism as portrayed in society today as gender equality, I see it as women wanting more of what men already have (and that part is perfectly fine) while also wanting to retain all the "good" discrimination that exists such as women getting away with stuff more easily than men, changing/shower rooms split off from men's, getting paid for on dates and all that stuff.

  
  
  I love you for this owo
  
  But im afraid the gentleman in me would prevent me from treating women like I would one of my guy friends.
  
  Im all for gender equality but I think that not all gender equalitys are bad and should be taken out of society.
• Claudia wrote on 2012-01-25 23:56

  Quote from Lilith;748504:

  Every girl is a feminist if they want to have equal rights for themselves. People fail to differentiate between feminists and the extreme feminist. I've noticed most of the time when people talk about feminists they're referring to the extremists. Quite honestly it pisses me off when people are too stupid to realize the difference between the two.

  
  
  I concur.
  
  The OP and quite a few other people are just referring to the extremists. And that makes you pretty much what all women, not just the crazy feminists, find rather unappealing. Not every 'feminist' wants absolutely equal everything.
  Anyways, i'm going to take a gender studies class next year, so maybe i'll learn a little more about this.
• Kollin wrote on 2012-01-26 02:38

  Quote from Osayidan;748703:

  I'm for true gender equality. Not feminism.
  And I mean literal equality. If dudes can punch each other in the shoulder and change/shower together now, then literal gender equality would mean men and women can do it too. If dudes can talk about female genitals while having lunch, then they shouldn't have to shut up and act innocent when female coworkers come in out of fear of sexual harassment claims.
  
  I don't see feminism as portrayed in society today as gender equality, I see it as women wanting more of what men already have (and that part is perfectly fine) while also wanting to retain all the "good" discrimination that exists such as women getting away with stuff more easily than men, changing/shower rooms split off from men's, getting paid for on dates and all that stuff.

  
  
  This.
  Also, do not refer to the extremists as feminists, refer to them as feminazis.
• Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-01-27 13:41

  Quote from Osayidan;748703:

  I'm for true gender equality. Not feminism.
  And I mean literal equality. If dudes can punch each other in the shoulder and change/shower together now, then literal gender equality would mean men and women can do it too. If dudes can talk about female genitals while having lunch, then they shouldn't have to shut up and act innocent when female coworkers come in out of fear of sexual harassment claims.
  
  I don't see feminism as portrayed in society today as gender equality, I see it as women wanting more of what men already have (and that part is perfectly fine) while also wanting to retain all the "good" discrimination that exists such as women getting away with stuff more easily than men, changing/shower rooms split off from men's, getting paid for on dates and all that stuff.

  
  
  I agree except for the bolded
  keep the **** away from the public
  I don't care if you're male female or ****ing both
  I just don't want to hear that **** if I'm out enjoying my lunch or out with friends
• lightychan wrote on 2012-01-27 14:06
  I"m against woman suffrage. Suffering women are bad.
• Conor wrote on 2012-01-27 14:08

  Quote from Lilith;748504:

  Every girl is a feminist if they want to have equal rights for themselves. People fail to differentiate between feminists and the extreme feminist. I've noticed most of the time when people talk about feminists they're referring to the extremists. Quite honestly it pisses me off when people are too stupid to realize the difference between the two.

  
  
  

  Quote from Hannah's Lover;748532:

  
  
  Extreme feminists aren't really feminists, they're just sexist feeling like women are superior to men.

  
  quoted 4 ALL the truths
• Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-01-27 14:57
  on topic:
  

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  I've been thinking about some things
  and people who say
  
  "Men, because we have to buy women things and provide from them and get nothing in return"
  
  Like I've said previously, not even a majority of women do this, a lot of independent
  
  and there's a counter arguement just waiting to happen that is
  
  "Well, women are expect not only to work, but cook, clean, and raise children for me"
  
  Do men not cook or clean? Some don't, but once again, not even a majority are like this.
  
  We've come a long freaking way in the last century (which if you think that's long, PFFTTTT)
  
  and I think we have it about even.
  
  Both sides have those *****es/asshole but to categorize a group of one gender/sex on being "worse" is just.. ignorant.
• Cynic wrote on 2012-01-27 18:32
  Feminism itself, as a raw, unbiased and untouched idea was a very good thing at one time. It was original just a movement-- similar to the current LGBT rights movements-- that wanted freedom and equality for women, as compared to men.
  
  Then a bunch of b*tches decided that wasn't enough, that and not only women were equal, that they were apparently better than men. A lot of them also uphold the belief that you have to be constantly chivalrous, though typically when you do, you get shunned for 'assuming women are weak and can't care for themselves'. I've also known a lot of them who want to basically put men in the position they had been for everything pre-60's or so. Essentially reversing how far we've come with sexism by making it a female-dominated world.
  
  Also what Osay said.
  
  It was a really good movement back in the day.. but not now. Now, it's just a bunch of reverse sexist BS created by some b*tches who probably weren't even alive when real sexism toward women was going on. They just want want want.
  
  Then only good movement to combat sexism of any sort is sex and gender equality. Nothing else.
  And you can be a man, woman, transperson, or anything inbetween to want it.
• Nithiel wrote on 2012-01-27 23:39
  If you want to be equal to men, you can have it. Pay for dinner?! Hell no, we're equal! Open the door for you? Get it yourself, lazy! Buy you a present? Where's mine? Piss me off? Then I'm going to punch you in the face just like I would a guy who pissed me off.
• Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-01-28 01:45

  Quote from Nithiel;751105:

  If you want to be equal to men, you can have it. Pay for dinner?! Hell no, we're equal! Open the door for you? Get it yourself, lazy! Buy you a present? Where's mine? Piss me off? Then I'm going to punch you in the face just like I would a guy who pissed me off.

  
  
  If you get with a woman like that, that's YOUR fault because they're very easy to read right away.
  I don't know anyone like that, what are your standards? some "rich daddy's girl" that wants to be treated like a princess?
  
  If you've ever been with more than one woman, you'd know not even a majority of us are like that.
  
  Also
  
  >bring violence into a situation for no reason
  
  watch out, we've got a bad ass over here
• Nithiel wrote on 2012-01-28 01:57

  Quote from Hannah's Lover;751227:

  If you get with a woman like that, that's YOUR fault because they're very easy to read right away.
  I don't know anyone like that, what are your standards? some "rich daddy's girl" that wants to be treated like a princess?
  
  If you've ever been with more than one woman, you'd know not even a majority of us are like that.
  
  Also
  
  >bring violence into a situation for no reason
  
  watch out, we've got a bad ass over here

  
  
  I've been with many women. I also have many female friends.
  
  They are all like that.
  
  
  The fact that if I punch a guy it's just considered "LOL GUYS WILL BE GUYS" and I might get a night in jail vs. punching a girl and getting 20 years in prison because "OMG SHE WAS A GURL" isn't "equal" is a valid point whether you like violence or not.
• Cynic wrote on 2012-01-28 02:02

  Quote from Nithiel;751258:

  I've been with many women. I also have many female friends.
  
  They are all like that.
  
  
  The fact that if I punch a guy it's just considered "LOL GUYS WILL BE GUYS" and I might get a night in jail vs. punching a girl and getting 20 years in prison because "OMG SHE WAS A GURL" isn't "equal" is a valid point whether you like violence or not.

  
  
  So just because you've had bad luck with chicks, all women automatically have to be feminist *****es?
  
  And you wonder why some women treat you like crap.
• Nithiel wrote on 2012-01-28 02:12

  Quote from Cynic;751266:

  So just because you've had bad luck with chicks, all women automatically have to be feminist *****es?
  
  And you wonder why some women treat you like crap.

  
  
  I obey logic. Logic states that if 9/10 women I've known have been *****es, that there is a 9/10 chance that the next one will be too. Of course, the 1/10 is free to prove me wrong.
• Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-01-28 02:32

  Quote from Nithiel;751258:

  I've been with many women. I also have many female friends.
  
  They are all like that.
  
  
  The fact that if I punch a guy it's just considered "LOL GUYS WILL BE GUYS" and I might get a night in jail vs. punching a girl and getting 20 years in prison because "OMG SHE WAS A GURL" isn't "equal" is a valid point whether you like violence or not.

  
  
  HAH.
  20 years? More like a night - a month, just like any man.
  
  Your luck with women, are not my fault, or every other woman's fault because you have a hard time reading people.
  
  Those types of women are obvious from the very start.
  
  It's not like you date for a month and then you find this out.
  
  You pull "facts" out of your ass and expect us to believe them
  
  also, anyone who thinks hitting someone just because they make you mad is okay, is an idiot and deserves to rot in jail.
• Cynic wrote on 2012-01-28 02:39
  There are only a few assholes who are really, really good at hiding who they really are. And there aren't many women who bother to try, so Hanna is correct.
  
  Women like the girls you're describing? They tend to make little to no effort to hide how they really are, because with their logic, they see no reason to.
  I don't care how attracted to them or how nice you think you are, nobody is /that/ blind. And if they are, they do it because they are blinding themselves.
  
  No, nobody should have to deal with b*tches like that, but the moment you start blaming all women for what a small group of them did? Then you lose the right to sympathy, and earn the right to be called an asshole yourself.