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Hazeri wrote on 2012-02-16 09:06
Yet the west won't shut up about dictators raping civil rights in the east...
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Froglord wrote on 2012-02-16 13:41
This is funny because most of Canada's politicians have some history of child abuse and sexual misconduct.
I guess this is their way of shifting the focus/blaim to the people who pay their wages.
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Micho wrote on 2012-02-16 23:53
Quote from Kollin;775624:
Sweden?
They are too high all the time, so they don't care much.
If it means keeping crap like this from being passed, then I guess I support child por- *shot*
Sweden is a nice country, until you find out they force sterilize transsexuals.
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Chiyuri wrote on 2012-02-16 23:54
Quote from Micho;776667:
Sweden is a nice country, until you find out they force sterilize transsexuals.
How exactly do they "Force" it?
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Ithiliel wrote on 2012-02-17 00:27
That's awfully stupid thinking, "You don't support this! You must want child porn everywhere!" uh...no it's called having differing opinions.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-02-17 00:31
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-02-17 00:33
Quote from Cynic;775612:
I'm beginning to think there are no nice countries to move to anymore.
Norge!
Like, I dunno, Bergen maybe.
[video=youtube;t-Aml7f_CDU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Aml7f_CDU[/video]
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Chiyuri wrote on 2012-02-17 02:11
Quote from Cynic;776696:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Sweden#Transgender_rights
Then in that case, it's pretty much the same in Canada.
For example, a FtM will not be considered a guy by the governement as long as they have ovaries, even if the tunnel is closed and they have a manhood. To get the mention of sex changed in the documents, transexuals Have to be sterilized.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-02-17 02:14
Quote from Chiyuri;776794:
Then in that case, it's pretty much the same in Canada.
For example, a FtM will not be considered a guy by the governement as long as they have ovaries, even if the tunnel is closed and they have a manhood. To get the mention of sex changed in the documents, transexuals Have to be sterilized.
lolwut
I never heard that. What the hell is wrong with the government?
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Chiyuri wrote on 2012-02-17 03:00
Quote from Cynic;776799:
lolwut
I never heard that. What the hell is wrong with the government?
Well you mostly just hear about MtF which in their case, the surgery is bound to make them sterile without ANY way to avoid it.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-02-17 03:07
Quote from Chiyuri;776844:
Well you mostly just hear about MtF which in their case, the surgery is bound to make them sterile without ANY way to avoid it.
Yeah.. though it should really be enough to consider a Trans person their sex as long as they've taken hormones/had their surgeries, etc etc.
Some Transpeople may want to carry a biological child/be able to impregnate their partner but can't afford to free their eggs/sperm. Something so trivial shouldn't keep them from being considered female/male from the government.
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Chiyuri wrote on 2012-02-17 03:13
Quote from Cynic;776849:
Yeah.. though it should really be enough to consider a Trans person their sex as long as they've taken hormones/had their surgeries, etc etc.
Some Transpeople may want to carry a biological child/be able to impregnate their partner but can't afford to free their eggs/sperm. Something so trivial shouldn't keep them from being considered female/male from the government.
As far as I can tell, I think they just want to know who can and cannot fufil procreation in a worst case scenario in which most of the human race is annihiliated. Like as long as you have ovaries, you can procreate as a female for the purpose of repopulating the world.. If you become sterile, they probably don't care anymore since you become useless in that sort of worst case scenario.
I might just be mistaken too so don't take that too seriously.
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-02-17 11:38
Apparently, that's not quite what he said.. according to the guy himself!
[video=youtube;A1BAHc4Mr5M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BAHc4Mr5M[/video]
LOL
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-02-17 11:40
Apparently, that's not quite what he said.. according to the guy himself!
[video=youtube;A1BAHc4Mr5M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BAHc4Mr5M[/video]
LOL
In related news, someone working for the government has been posting info about the guy on Twitter:
A user account on the social networking site Twitter that's being used to post personal information on Public Safety Minister Vic Toews has been linked to an IP address on Parliament Hill.
The anonymous account uses an IP address that originates within the House of Commons, the Ottawa Citizen reported Friday.
An IP address is a unique number that identifies computers in a network, which suggests that someone who works on Parliament Hill may be posting Toews's personal information online.
The Twitter feed was set up on Feb. 14 and has already garnered more than 8,000 followers.
Messages posted on the page include details on topics such as Toews's spending habits and other more personal matters, including his divorce.
The IP address used to administer the Twitter account has also been used to update Wikipedia articles, apparently to give them a pro-NDP slant, the Citizen reported.
Moar/source
here.