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Episkey wrote on 2012-02-15 22:15
I'm currently doing a group project on how to reduce STI/STD infections and unwanted pregnancies.
We've formulated 4 possible solutions, just to give you all an idea of how serious this all is:
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- Get the media’s attention (Somehow make this a national issue, thereby causing some sort of change)
- Public Registry (We have a Sexual Predator list, why not a list of people infected with sexually transmitted diseases!)
- Condom Man (A comic-based superhero that promotes condom usage ... Yeah.)
- Church-based Education Class (Think Sunday school, but instead of learning about the Bible/religious texts - you learn about sex)
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I obviously recognize how silly some of these ideas can be ... but that's not what I really want to focus on.
I wanted to amass a great number of person experiences and opinions from a diverse group of people.
My question to you guys is:
How was sexual education was presented in your lifetime? (If any)
How do you believe sexual education should be presented/improved upon?
This isn't Bean Rua ... just a friendly reminder.
If you honestly have to verbally disagree[FONT=Tahoma] with what another member posted, try not to base it solely on personal conviction or beliefs. Use some sort of logic/scientific evidence to support what you believe.[/FONT]
I'll probably add my opinion on the matter later. Right now, I'm off to class.
Thanks for the help! :bye:
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-02-15 22:30
The public registry thing is interesting, but intrusive. People don't need to know if random people they aren't sleeping with have STDs. It could really mess up their social lives because people are silly and care a lot about things that will never affect them. The rest of the ideas just won't work out.
I think education is the only way to improve this situation. Straight up education, no tricks or gimmicks. It should be a class that people have to go to early on, much earlier than they do now. I didn't have my first health class until I was something like... I dunno, 12 or 13?
These things shouldn't be taboo any longer. People need to know the dangers and how things work as soon as they can understand it so they can overcome the silliness and immaturity of it that continues on through adulthood. We're in need of a world where these things are more socially acceptable both to do and to talk about.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-02-15 22:38
Quote from RebeccaBlack;775616:
The public registry thing is interesting, but intrusive. People don't need to know if random people they aren't sleeping with have STDs. It could really mess up their social lives because people are silly and care a lot about things that will never affect them. The rest of the ideas just won't work out.
I think education is the only way to improve this situation. Straight up education, no tricks or gimmicks. It should be a class that people have to go to early on, much earlier than they do now. I didn't have my first health class until I was something like... I dunno, 12 or 13?
These things shouldn't be taboo any longer. People need to know the dangers and how things work as soon as they can understand it so they can overcome the silliness and immaturity of it that continues on through adulthood. We're in need of a world where these things are more socially acceptable both to do and to talk about.
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The problem with sex education is it preaches complete and utter abstinence and refuses to go into details about what you need to know instead of just shoving their personal view on sex down kid's throats. Now, that isn't to say avoiding sex at an early age is bad, they just need to warn kids about what can happen, how to properly deal with sex, and how to protect yourself so that you don't get STDs.
Sex ED should teach kids that it's best to wait to have sex, but also tell them about condoms, birth control, etc. and where to get them from their local (free) clinic, store or even via prescription. Not to mention show them how serious STDs can really be, and that if you want to take the risk of having sex early on, that you at-least need to protect both yourself and your potential partner.
As for how I was taught Sex ED; we basically just learned about the basic anatomy of the sexual organs, but never really got into the serious issues involving sex. I don't think they even mentioned whether or not they agreed with having sex in your teen years; they basically just avoided the entire issue.
Our school nurse preached about the whole "no sex before marriage" thing, but never offered any information on condoms, STDs, or really sex in general.
A lot of Schools don't seem to take this issue very seriously, so it's not surprising we have so many young (and even older) people spreading STDs and practicing unsafe sex.
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Kollin wrote on 2012-02-15 22:42
Quote from RebeccaBlack;775616:
I think education is the only way to improve this situation. Straight up education, no tricks or gimmicks. It should be a class that people have to go to early on, much earlier than they do now. I didn't have my first health class until I was something like... I dunno, 12 or 13?
These things shouldn't be taboo any longer. People need to know the dangers and how things work as soon as they can understand it so they can overcome the silliness and immaturity of it that continues on through adulthood. We're in need of a world where these things are more socially acceptable both to do and to talk about.
This. We only get a health class during the last few years of high school, which the information would have been much more useful in lower grades to those starting to develop.
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2012-02-15 22:44
1) lol@Media. The media iis the main reason why kids know about sex so early. The media often encourages sex.
2) Major violation of HIPPA rights. Although, if a person knows they have HIV, and still have sex without telling the other person, I think that person can be charged with murder.
3) Media promoting sex again? Also, who would actually read such comic. Such idea would be money lost.
Might as well get pornography related media to use the condom, and talk about unwanted pregnancies.
4) Church is one of the reasons why sex is not discussed, and contraception is not encouraged.
I think one of the other ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies is to tell females about oral contraception and morning after pills.
However, the main and probably best method is still education at an earlier age, and repeat it often.
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Episkey wrote on 2012-02-15 23:10
Just quickly checking this, thanks for your input!~
Again, I don't fully agree with most (if any) of the proposed solutions.
The whole HIPPA violation, I quickly caught up on and expressed my concerns about it to my group.
Sadly, I was kinda pushed aside - I'll just utterly destroy them when it comes to the debate.
Currently sex education can be catagorized into 3 catagories:
Abstinence-only (Only abstinence, no mention of other stuff)
Abstinence-plus (Sexual education that focuses on abstinence, but also mentions condoms, contraceptives, etc.)
Condoms only (Abstinence isn't mentioned at all)
So, yeah. Keep it going.
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2012-02-15 23:19
Quote from Episkey;775641:
Just quickly checking this, thanks for your input!~
Again, I don't fully agree with most (if any) of the proposed solutions.
The whole HIPPA violation, I quickly caught up on and expressed my concerns about it to my group.
Sadly, I was kinda pushed aside - I'll just utterly destroy them when it comes to the debate.
Currently sex education can be catagorized into 3 catagories:
Abstinence-only
Abstinence plus condoms
Condoms only
So, yeah. Keep it going.
Why is it that it is either abstinence or male take responsibility in sex? Yes, condoms are cheaper, but female contraceptives still should be mentioned although they don't help preventing STDs.
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Ninjam wrote on 2012-02-16 00:39
I think one of my favorite things in school was my second sex education class. It was at the end of the 8th grade, so right before high school.
They basicly took everyone into a room and said "HERE ARE PAPERS, SIGN THIS PAPER SAYING YOU WONT DO ANYTHING UNTIL MARRIED"
Half the people refused to sign the paper, the other half did but many of them later suprise, ignored it.
I remember one of my favorites was as i was walking out i heard a girl talking about how there way to late for this.
Its really stupid, im not sure why, my sex ed class in the 6th grade was very indepth and rather than one 30 minute class, was instead a full course, requiring a permission slip to be signed, it was about half general health, half sex ed, an entire unit on stds, and a very disgusting video of childbirth that caused a lot of discomfort in the class.
Hmm, now that i think about it, perhaps it was location? First class, Nevada. Second class, Missouri?
Anyway the best way for this to be fixed is to have a reform requiring schools to teach a set curriculm for sex ed, with no way to get out of it.
It should be taught in the 6th grade, or about age 11-12, and compleatly cover stds, pregnancy, basic anatomy, ways to prevent stds and pregnancies, and perhaps some information about hormones and how the human mind works (so psycology?)
If sex ed was standardized throughout the US in this way, things would be a lot better.
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Episkey wrote on 2012-02-16 01:03
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Why is it that it is either abstinence or male take responsibility in sex? Yes, condoms are cheaper, but female contraceptives still should be mentioned although they don't help preventing STDs.
Sorry. You are correct.
I meant to write the second catagory as
Abstinence-plus
Abstinence-plus is sexual education that focuses on abstinence, but also mentions condoms, contraceptives, etc.
I'll go edit my post right now. Thanks for catching that.
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Anyway the best way for this to be fixed is to have a reform requiring schools to teach a set curriculm for sex ed, with no way to get out of it.
It should be taught in the 6th grade, or about age 11-12, and compleatly cover stds, pregnancy, basic anatomy, ways to prevent stds and pregnancies, and perhaps some information about hormones and how the human mind works (so psycology?)
If sex ed was standardized throughout the US in this way, things would be a lot better.
Yes, I mostly agree with you. That was my suggestion, but it got shot down and the media one was picked. I was going for a whole education re-form idea. The only one I could partially agrue for would be the 4th solution ... but that's a bit complicated.
Again, I know the options are kinda silly. But feel free to comment on the proposed solutions as well.
The more knowledge and opinions I can gain from this, the better. I'm sure this would also help others as well.
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Rin wrote on 2012-02-16 02:51
This would have to go with another thing about education: teaching kids about nutrition, physical education, etc... and making the kids eat food considered healthy by the school and exercise in physical education?
Take the parents out of the picture of raising their kids on certain, important aspects of life?
Anyway, you can't change the media. Public registry would be controversial, since those are used for sexual crimes. Condom Man... It sounds so diametrical, a child's imagination with an adult concept. Religion wouldn't appreciate using themselves for things they don't support.
Sex Ed course is the simple way to go right now. A separate, government-funded institution for sex ed (instead of using the child's school) is more efficient.
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Xemnas wrote on 2012-02-16 02:59
Quote from Episkey;775610:
- Condom Man (A comic-based superhero that promotes condom usage ... Yeah.)
[video=youtube;RJVVoMXgfzU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJVVoMXgfzU[/video]
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]I know it's not Bean Rua, but it's relevant.[/SPOILER]
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Chillax wrote on 2012-02-16 03:17
Stick them with a crying and pooping baby, then tell them that that's what they're going to get if they have unprotected sex. Showing them gruesome pictures of people with STDs might help as well.
Also, Dave Chapelle's idea about sex-ed might work, but that segment might not be appropriate for this part of the forum.
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Episkey wrote on 2012-02-16 03:33
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[SPOILER="Spoiler"]I know it's not Bean Rua, but it's relevant.[/SPOILER]
That's fine. I'm talking to my friend right now about this, he mentioned that video.
It was nice to have a reference.
Quote from Chillax;775890:
Stick them with a crying and pooping baby, then tell them that that's what they're going to get if they have unprotected sex. Showing them gruesome pictures of people with STDs might help as well.
Also, Dave Chapelle's idea about sex-ed might work, but that segment might not be appropriate for this part of the forum.
I'll look into it, if I have the time. You could always spoiler-tag it, unless it's
THAT bad.
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Malogg wrote on 2012-02-16 03:59
During my very first sex-ed class, I remember my teacher didn't have a clue what she was talking about when it came to male changes. She was really incompetent. She told us that wet dreams were exactly like pissing the bed, along with many other horribly inaccurate things.
Anyway, I think that the best thing to do would be for government officials to monitor classes occasionally and make sure that the teachers know what they are talking about and not shoving their biased opinions down people's throats.
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Loopulse wrote on 2012-02-16 04:08
Quote from Episkey;775770:
Sorry. You are correct.
I meant to write the second catagory as Abstinence-plus
Abstinence-plus is sexual education that focuses on abstinence, but also mentions condoms, contraceptives, etc.
I'll go edit my post right now. Thanks for catching that.
Yes, I mostly agree with you. That was my suggestion, but it got shot down and the media one was picked. I was going for a whole education re-form idea. The only one I could partially agrue for would be the 4th solution ... but that's a bit complicated.
Again, I know the options are kinda silly. But feel free to comment on the proposed solutions as well.
The more knowledge and opinions I can gain from this, the better. I'm sure this would also help others as well.
Yup, the fourth one seems like the best, and most positive solution. The third one sounds kind of uncomfortable to most people, or at least myself.