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Justified wrote on 2010-07-05 11:05
[UB]After getting more familiar with the shadow missions, it turns out I was wrong about Their Method - it actually is a viable alternative to Shadow Warrior, if not a complete replacement. As the SM Guide creator with nothing else to do, I present to you this comparison.
[SIZE="1"]Experience and loot is based off of soloed Hard missions, including kills.
Time is based off my average speed run times, using melee with no advanced magic assistance.[/SIZE]
Shadow Cast City
230,000 EXP
11-14 Minutes (usage of Adniel and Trans)
16500-21000 Exp/Min
Notable Loot : Stiff Round Shield, Moist Water Cylinder, Glorious Composite Bow, Crocodile Claymore, 3.00 cm Diamond
Bonus Drops : Fine/st Leathers, higher dur weapons. Dopple - Arat / Life Drain Crystals (5 at once). Very high gold drop rate.
Requirements : Hardest of these missions to solo. Windmill intensive, aided by strong Smash.
Sliab Cuilin
135,000 EXP
8-10 Minutes (no Adniel or Trans)
13000-17000 Exp/Min
Notable Loot : Burgundy Bear Cylinder, Avenger Cylinder, Wyvern ES, Bat Hat, Bat Dress
Bonus Drops : Fine/st Leather, Snow Golem Crystal
Requirements : Decent strength Smash and Windmill to clear effectively, especially on Golem.
Their Method
121,000 EXP
8-12 Minutes (usage of Trans)
10000-15000 Exp/Min
Notable Loot : Vicious ES, Burgundy Bear ES, Thin ES, 3.00 cm Diamond
Bonus Drops : -none-
Requirements : Least threatening mission. Very Windmill intensive.
Defeat Shadow Warrior
90,000 EXP
6-8 Minutes (no Adniel or Trans)
11000-15000 Exp/Min
Notable Loot : Defensive Cylinder, Bat Hat
Bonus Drops : Fine/st Leather, higher dur weapons.
Requirements : Smash intensive. Also suited for Windmill.
Listed in what I think is best to worst.
Shadow Cast City might be intimidating, but it's not hard. None of the regular spawns will multi-aggro (except Archers, which are double-aggro), meaning Windmill spammers can keep on spinning away. It's also very consistent with the gold and item drops, so even if you don't get a shiny reward you'll still be walking away with some heavy pockets.
I was also considering Enemy Behind as another good mission (it's absolutely great for duoing), but didn't get around to running it. Plus the boss is annoying.[/ub]
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-07-05 11:06
Ah, thank you. It's good to know these kinds of things.
By the way, did you run all of missions in Hard mode?
Edit: I should have read.
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TheTempest wrote on 2010-07-05 11:13
I voted for Their Method because windmilling is just, oh so, fun! And I'm super close to getting the master title after slacking for one and a half years. :glasses:
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Taliya wrote on 2010-07-05 11:19
Quote from Justified;82661:
[UB]I was also considering Enemy Behind as another good mission (it's absolutely great for duoing), but didn't get around to running it. Plus the boss is annoying.[/ub]
That's what poison/snakes are for.
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Phunkie wrote on 2010-07-05 11:21
Oh my, you make me wanna start up Mabi at this moment. :3
I'm gonna run some missions!
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Kaldo wrote on 2010-07-05 11:57
<3 Enemy Behind the most. Shadow Warrior is getting repetitive :/ Even though I have r1 wm, I keep dying in Their Method cuz I keep trying to get more than one zombie in one spin, and thus get too close and get hit T_T I'll vote for Shadow Warrior though
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Swordslayer wrote on 2010-07-05 12:46
Quote from Kaldo;82686:
<3 Enemy Behind the most. Shadow Warrior is getting repetitive :/ Even though I have r1 wm, I keep dying in Their Method cuz I keep trying to get more than one zombie in one spin, and thus get too close and get hit T_T I'll vote for Shadow Warrior though
lol yea happens to me a lot.
Thanks for this list, I think I'll spam some of shadow cast city and see what happens.
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Kaldo wrote on 2010-07-05 12:53
Someone to share the shame with :gloom2:
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Aubog007 wrote on 2010-07-05 14:01
Spammable implying you immediately reenter?
Their method by far. No need for trans or any of that.
Plus with all the other mission times that you counted with trans becomes moot. That means it isn't spammable at all.
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Spartaaaaa wrote on 2010-07-05 14:39
Their method is just so darn easy!
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Cide wrote on 2010-07-05 15:28
is shadow cast city archer-friendly at all? i haven't actually tried it out yet.
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Zeo wrote on 2010-07-05 16:16
Quote from Cide;82756:
is shadow cast city archer-friendly at all? i haven't actually tried it out yet.
Yeah, I suppose so. The monsters there isn't immune tor ranged at all.
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Ravendor wrote on 2010-07-05 16:31
I'm in love with Their Method. WM is the only thing I'm good for at the moment, and I can do an advanced in around eight minutes, so that's good I guess.
I can't wait to try hard.
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Zack wrote on 2010-07-05 17:25
I think Stones is the best IMO. It's easy and quick.
I find SCC requires me to use a lot of pots but I don't mind that.
I usually duo SCC and Solo stones but I'll solo or duo either if I feel like it.
Quote from Cide;82756:
is shadow cast city archer-friendly at all? i haven't actually tried it out yet.
Theres groups of 5's of archers or a group of 3 archers and 2 diff monsters or 2 archers and 3 diff. You can easily take those out with a smash first tho.
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Oops D: I thought you were asking if there were archers in it :x
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Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-07-05 17:46
Quote from Cide;82756:
is shadow cast city archer-friendly at all? i haven't actually tried it out yet.
Definitely. Especially if you're an elf, you can open with Mirage Missile since the enemies spawn so densely. If you have Barrier Spikes, the Ghost and the Doppelganger are easy archer fodder.