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Ninjam wrote on 2012-02-21 03:04
"Your paper is great, but where are the sources?"
"You need at least 3 sources, but it is perfect, write where you got this information"
"You used too many sources, only list sources you cite in the text"
I use sources, there all wrong.
I dont use sources and write off only what i know, i need more sources.
I list everything i look at, one teacher says i only need to list what I cite in text, the other says its ok.
This "in text citation" stuff is stupid, i know its probably very useful if people were actually going to use my papers for something, but there not, and even if they are giving them just the general "this book is what i looked at" should be enough. Not only that, but every single teacher has different criteria and NEVER tell you until you get it wrong.
Its never that my writing is bad, i get told my writing is great, its all these "rules" that are making me upset.
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Skye wrote on 2012-02-21 03:10
I know exactly what you're talking about.
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Claudia wrote on 2012-02-21 03:13
I can't remember the last time I used MLA formatting or came up with a title for any of my essays.
Half of my teachers don't want them, half of them don't care, and occasionally one of them will dock a point just 'cause. Oh well.
Essays don't look right to me when they're formal-looking, which is why I start off writing them in size 10 single-spaced font.
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Kenny? wrote on 2012-02-21 03:37
The thing I hate most is when teachers give you minimum source requirements.
Bitch please, I can write a paper 10x as good as you with half the sources if you'd let me, but now I have to include this stupid unnecessary info from my 60th required source that will bring my grade down because it's useless.
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-02-21 04:38
Quote from Ninjam;780651:
"Your paper is great, but where are the sources?"
"You need at least 3 sources, but it is perfect, write where you got this information"
"You used too many sources, only list sources you cite in the text"
I use sources, there all wrong.
I dont use sources and write off only what i know, i need more sources.
I list everything i look at, one teacher says i only need to list what I cite in text, the other says its ok.
This "in text citation" stuff is stupid, i know its probably very useful if people were actually going to use my papers for something, but there not, and even if they are giving them just the general "this book is what i looked at" should be enough. Not only that, but every single teacher has different criteria and NEVER tell you until you get it wrong.
Its never that my writing is bad, i get told my writing is great, its all these "rules" that are making me upset.
The point of high school is not for you to write amazing papers that would be used/cited by other researchers. Rather, it is to teach you how to write a proper paper, and that means proper citations are very important. The fact that you're having difficulty with it only means that you're learning something, which is good. The teacher's requirements seem sound to me.
What's more annoying is writing a paper in
IEEE Transactions format. D8
Thankfully, I didn't have to write that often.
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Claudia wrote on 2012-02-21 04:45
I thought the OP was in college. ;o
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-02-21 04:47
Really? People should not be having this kind of trouble by the time they're in college. D:
But it's better to learn late than never, I suppose.
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Ninjam wrote on 2012-02-21 06:41
Yes i am in college. I was taught it all, i know how it all works, i just hate it. It's annoying and really gets in the way of me writing well when they yell at me for not writing in my sources right, or tell me im required to have a specific amount of sources and in text citations. It just ends up putting them in randomly, then being told that there wrong or useless.
In my opinion, all that should be needed is for you to put at the end of your document anything you referenced to write the paper. If credit is given there should be no complaints. Its just made 10000x times complicated that each teacher requires different types of citation and has different criteria, and you only find this out half the time by turning in a paper and getting docked points.
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Episkey wrote on 2012-02-21 07:06
I don't like writing essays either.
But I love documenting resources lol.
Makes it look all professional and stuff
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Best you can do is learn from it, every teacher has their own way of doing something. Just stick to the rubric or guidelines.
Although in my opinion, source variety is more important than source quantity.
Quality over Quantity.~