Cloning

• User495 wrote on 2010-07-06 02:36
  more specifically Humans (but anything else applies)
  
  your opinion?
  
  (I thought of this after reading the Abortion thread for awhile, because cloning is almost like another form of giving birth)
  
  
  also forgot to mention this is ignoring the fact that cloning technology currently fails badly
• Seventy wrote on 2010-07-06 02:38
  I Heard the cloned a Longhorn.
  I was like oh, thats cool.
  But I'm wondering...
  
  -Life span
  -Whats up in the insides
  -Is...Cloned meat good for you?
  
  and lol sen you love starting debates.
• User495 wrote on 2010-07-06 02:40

  Quote from Seventy;83212:

  I Heard the cloned a Longhorn.
  I was like oh, thats cool.
  But I'm wondering...
  
  -Life span
  -Whats up in the insides
  -Is...Cloned meat good for you?
  
  and lol sen you love starting debates.

  
  
  lol no no I just thought of stuff and decide to post here,
  
  I would assume cloned things would be "identical" to the original counterpart? so meat wouldn't- or shouldn't be a problem cause it goes through the same process as regular growth
  though I heard their lifespan is considerable shorter
• Seventy wrote on 2010-07-06 02:41

  Quote from Sevian;83216:

  lol no no I just thought of stuff and decide to post here,
  
  I would assume cloned things would be "identical" to the original counterpart? so meat wouldn't- or shouldn't be a problem cause it goes through the same process as regular growth
  though I heard their lifespan is considerable shorter

  
  
  We were debating the meat thing in History class once. But I mean there's gotta be a difference in meat because,
  well does Cloning mess with something in the DNA? (obviously, but what?)
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-07-06 03:46
  I wonder if anyone have problems with cloning bacteria.
• Chockeh wrote on 2010-07-06 03:49
  Cloning humans would be kinda scary...
  I would never want a clone of myself D:... Unless I can control it...
• Seventy wrote on 2010-07-06 05:20

  Quote from EndlessDreams;83287:

  I wonder if anyone have problems with cloning bacteria.

  
  
  Sounds like it could get a little out of hand.
• Lan wrote on 2010-07-06 05:24
  I approve of cloning only if it benefits mankind. I however condemn cloning humans and raising them because that would be playing god and would be rather cruel to the clone seeing as they wont live that long :<
• Taycat wrote on 2010-07-06 06:49
  Let's not start cloning everyone over and over like in Æon Flux (the movie at least)
• User495 wrote on 2010-07-06 16:55

  Quote from Chocklitshop;83292:

  Cloning humans would be kinda scary...
  I would never want a clone of myself D:... Unless I can control it...

  
  
  kinda like our doppelgangers on mabi right ;D
  
  

  Quote from Lan;83337:

  I approve of cloning only if it benefits mankind. I however condemn cloning humans and raising them because that would be playing god and would be rather cruel to the clone seeing as they wont live that long :<

  
  
  the idea is without considering the defects of current cloning technology, like if it was able to completely clone something with it's natural life expectancy and immunity etc
  
  <-< so what's the difference between cloning and giving birth to twins o:
  
  
  and cloning bacteria, I kinda thought that bacteria technically do that by themselves without our help
  
  but yeah human cloning I agree would be kinda scary, but if I had a clone of myself I could finally name my twin Nes
  
  also realized this thread will die just as fast as the clones we're talking about
• dasu wrote on 2010-07-06 17:38
  Cloning isn't as magnificent as it sounds in fiction. You can (optimally) plant DNA so that an embryo develops exactly like another, existing person, but that only makes a person genetically cloned. Environmental factors will affect both physical and psychological development, and you can't possibly end up with the exact same person. Kind of like identical twins; they're still two different persons. Of course, one thing to keep in mind is that it seems unlikely that the technology would ever exist to clone someone and develop their body to match the donor's age. The clone will have to age it out at a normal rate, and so instead of having a doppelganger effect, it's like someone was born that looks just like someone who already exists. Which could, theoretically, happen in nature. But the chance of two people being born, who aren't identical twins, with the exact same genetic code... is ridiculously unlikely.
• Seventy wrote on 2010-07-06 19:57

  Quote from Sevian;83658:

  kinda like our doppelgangers on mabi right ;D
  
  
  
  the idea is without considering the defects of current cloning technology, like if it was able to completely clone something with it's natural life expectancy and immunity etc
  
  <-< so what's the difference between cloning and giving birth to twins o:
  
  
  and cloning bacteria, I kinda thought that bacteria technically do that by themselves without our help
  
  but yeah human cloning I agree would be kinda scary, but if I had a clone of myself I could finally name my twin Nes
  
  also realized this thread will die just as fast as the clones we're talking about

  
  
  I can only deal with one sen dammit.
• Chockeh wrote on 2010-07-07 02:18
  Sen, I wouldn't know D:!
  Didn't do G10.
  DO IT FOR ME.
• Phunkie wrote on 2010-07-07 05:19
  I think cloning is a great idea and has many possible implications for medicine and all that good stuff.
  
  But it goes a lot into ethics.
  
  Two people, same DNA. Imagine one of them commits a crime. DNA evidence can't tell them apart. (Or can they?)
  The whole issue about clones being born without a "soul" = religious business.
  Etc., etc.
  
  I would love to be friends with a clone just to find out if they would be any different from a normal person (if they would be at all).
  
  Also, I'd love to clone myself. :3
• Troy wrote on 2010-07-07 14:53

  Quote from Phunkie;84148:

  I think cloning is a great idea and has many possible implications for medicine and all that good stuff.
  
  But it goes a lot into ethics.
  
  Two people, same DNA. Imagine one of them commits a crime. DNA evidence can't tell them apart. (Or can they?)
  The whole issue about clones being born without a "soul" = religious business.
  Etc., etc.
  
  I would love to be friends with a clone just to find out if they would be any different from a normal person (if they would be at all).
  Also, I'd love to clone myself. :3

  
  
  Good point, I heard from my Biology teacher that if you cloned an exact replica of yourself, they could grow up and be very different. What matters is how they're treated (loved, controlled, manipulated, abused), and weather or not they stay healthy or get fat.
  
  I always wondered if I made a clone of myself would it be more optimistic or jerkier or fatter... I'd love a fat clone of me to hug when I'm feeling down. :D