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Drizzit wrote on 2012-04-01 23:28
Actually, after taking a closer look at this, I think it really was self-defense. The media is just out for blood and not telling the whole story, as usual.
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whocares8128 wrote on 2012-04-02 14:22
Quote from Drizzit;828186:
Actually, after taking a closer look at this, I think it really was self-defense. The media is just out for blood and not telling the whole story, as usual.
Would you mind sharing what you found with the rest of us?
All the evidence I've seen so far indicates that Trayvon was reported as a "suspicious" person via a 911 call, followed while the shooter was on the phone with the police, and killed before police arrived, all while being unarmed himself and much younger than the shooter.
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Sayoko wrote on 2012-04-02 15:33
Trayvon's only crime is looking suspicious by wearing a hoodie. He should've worn a suit and tie everytime he goes outside as to not look suspicious.
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BizarreJuju wrote on 2012-04-03 18:53
[SIZE="3"]The Two Faces Of George Zimmerman,Neighbors Complained About His Aggression, So Did Ex-Girlfriend, ‘He Slapped Me Repeatedly’ Highlight Hollywood Exclusive Expose[/SIZE]
Written By: Tommy Lightfoot Garrett
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Fools like Roseanne Barr and director Spike Lee entered the fray, FOX News in their typical bigoted manner tried to make the new Black Panther Party the story, not Zimmerman, who shot and killed an unarmed African American CHILD! And Fox News viewers were almost giddy last week sending out emails, “There’s stuff coming out on Trayvon!†The KKK hacked Trayvon’s Twitter account, and still right-wingers like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Savage, Michael Levine, Geraldo Rivera, Bill O’Reilly, all continued compassion for killer Zimmerman and blame for innocent Trayvon. They even dragged out his school record. He was suspended from school. I never was, but those who brought it up to me, were themselves suspended from school like most young boys. But that’s the tactic FOX News viewers and right-wing nuts take. Blame the black kid!
Thanks to ABC News, the most hated by right-wingers for their journalistic integrity. We saw video, exclusive ABC News Sanford P.D. video showing a Zimmerman only minutes after he killed innocent Trayvon Martin, shirt in his pants, no blood, no broken nose, and getting in and out of the police patrol car with no problems whatsoever. Now we hear from a former girlfriend of Zimmerman’s, and the picture is definitely not pretty.
As more details have emerged about Zimmerman’s history of violence, now the right is again silenced.
Zimmerman, the 28-year-old Sanford, Fla., neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed 17-year-old Martin to death last month, was fired from a job securing illegal house parties for “being too aggressive,†according to the New York Daily News, which quoted a former colleague of Zimmerman’s. According to the co-worker, Zimmerman worked for two agencies that provided security for house parties from 2001 to 2005.
“Usually he was just a cool guy,†said the former co-worker, who the newspaper didn’t name. “But it was like Jekyll and Hyde. When dude snapped, he snapped.†The Daily News said Zimmerman earned $50 to $100 a night for the parties. He was fired for being too aggressive with patrons. Get it? Too aggressive with patrons. Sound familiar?
“He had a temper and he became a liability,†the newspaper quoted the former co-worker as saying. “One time this woman was acting a little out of control. She was drunk. George lost his cool and totally overreacted,†he said. “It was weird, because he was such a cool guy, but he got all nuts. He picked her up and threw her. It was pure rage. She twisted her ankle. Everyone was flipping out.â€
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Law enforcement in Sanford also leaked a police report to the Orlando Sentinel, offering details of Zimmerman’s account of the killing for the first time.
[COLOR="Red"]The report said Zimmerman told police that Martin attacked him from behind, punched him in the nose, wrestled him to the ground and [SIZE="3"]violently bashed his head on a sidewalk.[/SIZE] It was then, Zimmerman told the police, that he pulled out his 9mm handgun and shot Martin in the chest.
Surveillance video from the Sanford police station recorded the night of the shooting, first broadcast by ABC News on Wednesday, showed a clean-shaven and fit-looking Zimmerman being ushered in to the station without visible abrasions, bruises or bloodstains on his clothes, all of which may fail to support his account of a violent death struggle. In addition, the funeral director who handled Martin’s body reported there were no cuts or other marks on the teen’s hands that would suggest violent fisticuffs.
In the days after the shooting, Martin’s family said police officers told them Zimmerman had a clean record. But a cursory search of county records showed a 2005 arrest on charges of resisting arrest and assaulting a law enforcement officer. The charges were later dropped.
Also in 2005, Zimmerman was involved in a bitter domestic violence incident with his ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo. In that case, Zuazo filed for a restraining order against Zimmerman, who she said snatched her cell phone from her hand and pushed her during an argument. The next day, both filed court petitions accusing the other of violence.
According to the Miami Herald, Zuazo said that three years earlier, Zimmerman attacked her while the two were driving to a counseling session. Zuazo said she popped her gum in his face and he repeatedly smacked her in the face. In January 2002, she added, Zimmerman became enraged that she had come home late. They wrestled and he threw her on the bed, smacking her, according to the newspaper.
In September 2003, Zimmerman called police and reported that another motorist spat on him, according to reports, Zimmerman followed the man in his car until the police arrived. Daniel Osmun, the other driver, told police that Zimmerman was tailgating and that he spit his gum out the window “out of frustration.â€
Osum said that Zimmerman then pulled alongside of him, and the two argued. In a police report of the incident, Osum said “at one point, he thought Mr. Zimmerman was going to attack him.†No charges were filed against either man.
Zimmerman was the self-appointed captain of the neighborhood watch at the Retreat at Twin Lakes, a gated community where Martin was visiting his father and his father’s girlfriend when he was killed. Zimmerman noticed Martin, who was walking home from a store, and called 911 to report the youth as “suspicious.†(Zimmerman had called 911 46 times in recent years.) According to 911 recordings the night of the killing, Zimmerman followed Martin against a dispatcher’s recommendation. The police initially said that at one point Martin noticed he was being followed, turned to ask what Zimmerman wanted, and a physical altercation ensued.
Zimmerman was questioned and released by police, who said they lacked evidence to contradict his self-defense claim. The State Attorney’s Office is considering whether to file charges. A grand jury is scheduled to be called on April 10.
[SIZE="3"]Some of Zimmerman’s neighbors said he had a history of being overly aggressive and followed people whom he thought appeared suspicious back to their homes.[/SIZE]
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http://www.highlighthollywood.com/2012/03/31/the-two-faces-of-george-zimmermanneighbors-complained-about-his-aggression-so-did-ex-girlfriend-he-slapped-me-repeatedly-highlight-hollywood-exclusive-expose/
Discussed this with some of my peeps, we concluded that Zimmerman was purely insane, aggressive, short-tempered, and a liar.
Really sucks for Martin to be killed by a random guy like Zimmerman :C
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MareneCorp wrote on 2012-04-03 20:35
I've also noticed something consistent. Zimmerman had pretty much no bruises, Martin had no bruises on his hand to indicate that he hit anyone, and who the hell would REALLY fight someone without dropping their Skittles and tea? If they were dropped before the shooting, like in a struggle kind of dropped, sure, but if they were dropped after he was shot, fuck you Zimmerman.
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Taycat wrote on 2012-04-04 00:49
Quote from Kaeporo;819531:
They should try to get jobs instead.
>implying most of the people who sign petitions don't have jobs
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Drizzit wrote on 2012-04-05 17:32
Quote from whocares8128;828683:
Would you mind sharing what you found with the rest of us?
All the evidence I've seen so far indicates that Trayvon was reported as a "suspicious" person via a 911 call, followed while the shooter was on the phone with the police, and killed before police arrived, all while being unarmed himself and much younger than the shooter.
http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-22424932/george-zimmerman-enhanced-video-shows-injury-28804646.html
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whocares8128 wrote on 2012-04-05 18:38
So, if I threaten someone to the point that they try to defend themselves by physically attacking me, I can then defend myself by using lethal force, and it's all good, right?
I still don't see why George followed Trayvon against advice from 911 dispatch, and why we haven't heard about anything else being carried by Trayvon except for Skittles and an ice tea. George's past is also a cause for concern. And what was it about Trayvon that prompted George to call 911 anyway? Why haven't we heard from him his own reasoning?
Anyway, I find it hard to call it "self-defense" when George clearly followed his "attacker" after reporting them to the police.
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Hannah's Lover wrote on 2012-04-05 18:54
Quote from Drizzit;831524:
http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-22424932/george-zimmerman-enhanced-video-shows-injury-28804646.html
Awwee did Zimmerman get a boo-boo on the head?
Perfect reason to shoot someone, right?
Pfft.
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Sayoko wrote on 2012-04-06 02:54
Imagine some random guy stalking you and then when you try to fight back, he shoots and says its self defense. What has happened to America?
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Kayate wrote on 2012-04-06 03:04
The basic premise of self-defense is that you shouldn't be punished for injuring or killing another while trying to protect yourself...as long as your conduct was reasonable under the circumstances.
There was no reason to kill the boy since he didn't have any sort of weapon on him. I don't know why the police haven't arrested him since he pretty much used excessive force unless his claims turn out to be true and if his injuries could really have been life threatening there no reason on why he shouldn't be arrested. (He did "supposedly" get his head slammed on the sidewalk right? Head injuries can be pretty serious depending on the force)
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Drizzit wrote on 2012-04-06 05:19
If Trayvon was actually attacking him. He had every right to defend himself, and that video I posted shows injuries consistent with his claims. The media is lying to us and trying to turn it into a race issue.
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whocares8128 wrote on 2012-04-06 13:41
Nothing I've heard gives me reason to believe race had anything to do it. I'm not saying that race had nothing to do with it, but I found it rather pathetic to hear one of the news networks playing a garbled recording over and over to see if George used a racial slur or something while on the phone with police. It didn't sound like anything at all to me.
Also, it's not self-defense if you first provoke others to attack you (if you ask me).