ITS A TRAP! (Chapter 3)

• abc33kr wrote on 2010-07-10 18:15
  so everyone thought mages got buffed with all theses mastery skills...
  
  well as of the patch on 7/10/2010 (korean time), mages got SIGNIFICANT NERF.
  *source: ???? ??3 : ????
  
  
  although the patch log didn't say anything, the mages noticed damage difference from before and after patch. and they approximate that all mage skills' damages are nerfed by 30%.
  
  
  Here are some calculations that the mages made
  
  3 adv magic dmg chance
  
  ???? ??? :: Mabinogi Times
  *elemental mastery r1 boosts 15% dmg
  *elemental master title boosts 10% dmg
  
  Kor: : Fireball 2000~3000
  Test : Fireball 1600~2400
  -> Fire Mastery Rank 1: 1840 ~2760
  
  Master title: 2024~3174
  
  Kor: Ice Spear 200~300
  Test : Ice Spear 160~240
  -> Ice Mastery Rank 1: 184~276
  
  Master Title: 202.4~303.6
  
  
  Kor : Thunder 133~500
  Test : Thunder 160-400
  -> Lightning Mastery r1: 184~460
  
  Master Title: 202.4~506
  
  
  Blaze Dmg Change
  
  ???? ??? :: Mabinogi Times
  
  
  2nd dmg 1st dmg max int that help toward blaze dmg
  novice 2.1 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  F 2.8 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  E 3.5 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  D 4.2 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  C 4.9 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  B 5.6 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  A 6.3 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  9 7.0 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  8 7.7 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  7 8.4 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  6 9.1 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  5 10.5 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  4 11.2 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  3 11.9 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  2 12.6 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  1 14.0 × INT 2.4 × STR 550
  
  Before the 2nd dmg was 20.0x INT, but now its 14.0xINT so about 30% dmg nerf (this is done in both ice spear ->blaze and 2+blaze)
  
  But the Max int that helps toward blaze is still 550int
• Pocoyo wrote on 2010-07-10 18:23
  /Trigger gets pwned soon?
• Hiccup wrote on 2010-07-10 18:24
  Lmao wtf. I hope they fix this ;~;
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-07-10 18:29

  Quote from Kyle;88244:

  /Trigger gets pwned soon?

  
  trigger, zyrus, and all the mages in mabinogi o.e
  

  Quote from bradstrt;88245:

  Lmao wtf. I hope they fix this ;~;

  
  but this is what devcat fixed. the QQing archers QQed at the mage buff and bawwed at nexon to fix it.
• Juno wrote on 2010-07-10 18:30
  So basically, mages do the same damage with a lower mp cost and cast time for a higher AP cost.
  
  Sounds reasonable~ The whole update seemed to encourage people to pursue individual specialties so it makes sense. We'll be seeing more single elemental mages and fewer elemental masters and on the whole more magic since it now uses less mp and doesn't take a week to prep.
• Zid wrote on 2010-07-10 18:31
  Seriously.
  
  As if Magic doesn't get wrung around enough in DPS.
• hengsheng120 wrote on 2010-07-10 19:03
  that doesn't make any sense what so ever
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-07-10 19:06

  Quote from hengsheng120;88286:

  that doesn't make any sense what so ever

  
  
  basically magic got nerfed
• hengsheng120 wrote on 2010-07-10 19:12

  Quote from abc33kr;88290:

  basically magic got nerfed

  
  
  I'm saying the nerf doesn't make any logical sense. Why would they boost magic damage in g9/g10 and then nerf it again?
  I considering this is for testing purposes only unless there is a logical reason to nerf magic below its current damage when you have everything at rank 1.
  
  off topic: I'm still wonderin why aren't there videos of fiodh adv.
• Juno wrote on 2010-07-10 21:15
  I think the goal of this nerf was to make it more difficult to be a master magician without actually being dedicated to it. Whereas 400 AP used to net you 3k damage fireballs, now you'll need MM master title and r1 fire mastery to get that. For a full on mage it's not a bad deal considering the lower mp cost and cast time...but for someone who just liked tossing fireballs around it's gonna be a real pain. The masteries are only like 130-140ap if I recall?
• Haydrian wrote on 2010-07-10 23:25

  Quote from Juno;88423:

  I think the goal of this nerf was to make it more difficult to be a master magician without actually being dedicated to it. Whereas 400 AP used to net you 3k damage fireballs, now you'll need MM master title and r1 fire mastery to get that. For a full on mage it's not a bad deal considering the lower mp cost and cast time...but for someone who just liked tossing fireballs around it's gonna be a real pain. The masteries are only like 130-140ap if I recall?

  
  
  Yea I'm assuming the same here.
  
  I'm not going to be upset about it, but at the same time it's not going to make me more interested in being a "class"-like character. Never in a million sodding years. Instead it'll make me feel better that I rank all the "insignificant" crap even if I don't plan to focus on it in combat. Power of all trades? Yes please. I don't care how long it takes.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-07-11 12:36
  This wasn't a magic "nerf", it was a magic balance.
  
  Imagine this scenario with a different class.
  They release bow/crossbow mastery which boosts ranged damage by 20% and aim speed by 30% while cutting ranged damage by 20%. In the end, archers only improved. It's just that they'll be limited to either a bow or a crossbow until they have enough AP to effectively use both.
• abc33kr wrote on 2010-07-11 12:48
  btw Juno, i found out that they rebalanced the mastery skill too.
  
  now the speed cast bonus is gone and i think 30% ->15%dmg boostt
• Juno wrote on 2010-07-11 13:17

  Quote from abc33kr;89164:

  btw Juno, i found out that they rebalanced the mastery skill too.
  
  now the speed cast bonus is gone and i think 30% ->15%dmg boostt

  
  
  Ok, now I'm worried ._.
• paladin wrote on 2010-07-11 13:32
  Why would they kill magic more?
  Do they really want magic to just be a side arm to range and melee
  Adv magics are like the mages toolbox for attack, if they kill those then well
  mages are knocked down alot