rely on nobody but yourself. do you believe in this?

• Pierce wrote on 2012-04-19 01:36
  Discuss.
• Cynic wrote on 2012-04-19 01:46
  Basically, yeah. Though I'm lucky enough to have a Mom who I can trust completely and utterly and vice versa.
  
  But sadly, you are sometimes forced to rely on other people to get by. Things do tend to go pretty smoothly when you don't have to, though.
• Leopher wrote on 2012-04-19 01:52
  I don't know quite what you mean by that. By "relying on yourself" do you mean with respect to knowledge and completing tasks in general? If so, then absolutely not. I will explain.
  
  Nobody wants to rely on their own ignorance. And so, if you are going to rely on yourself to do something, you must commit to becoming an expert about that thing. So, for example, let's say you want to fix your own car. You can either rely on an expert (a mechanic) to fix it, or you can become an expert yourself. However, in order to become an expert you will still need to rely on the knowledge of other experts by learning from them, reading books, etc. So, either way, you will be relying on an expert. Additionally, if you choose the route of becoming an expert at things yourself, you're going to have to become an expert about ALLOT of things, which is very impractical.
  
  Or do you use "relying on yourself" to mean rejecting human company or something like that?
• Ithiliel wrote on 2012-04-19 01:57
  PIERCE, BABY, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING? =) Always good to see you around.
  
  Anyway, no I don't believe that. That's a very lonely and bitter life if you can't rely on anyone else around you. That signifies a big lack of trust to those closest to you, and that's rather sad.
• Xemnas wrote on 2012-04-19 01:58
  Yes.
• TA wrote on 2012-04-19 01:59
  [video=youtube;gmAReOklwNY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmAReOklwNY[/video]
• Bride wrote on 2012-04-19 02:00

  Quote from Ithiliel;842206:

  PIERCE, BABY, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING? =) Always good to see you around.
  
  Anyway, no I don't believe that. That's a very lonely and bitter life if you can't rely on anyone else around you. That signifies a big lack of trust to those closest to you, and that's rather sad.

  
  Pretty much this
  I had that mentality of trusting only myself as a teenager and I'm a lot happier now that I've shed it
• Guyverunit4 wrote on 2012-04-19 02:04
  Unquestionably.
• Royale wrote on 2012-04-19 02:05
  [video=youtube;Us-TVg40ExM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM[/video]
  that's a no by the way, i believe deep down every human being want to help each other, to be able to rely on others is not a weakness, but a great gift.
• Sekwaf wrote on 2012-04-19 02:07
  I'm going to take it to mean being self-sufficient. Not necessarily shunning other people, but knowing you can get stuff done without them. As a survivalist and an introvert I strongly support the notion. I know that I can handle myself in most situations, with or without company. There are some times when I prefer not to have anyone, and others when I would like to have a companion (but only if they were a close friend, which I have few enough of). Either way, I like to know that I'll do just fine.
• Claudia wrote on 2012-04-19 02:12
  Well, there are like, 5 people in this world I absolutely couldn't live without.
  
  I dunno, can't really think of anything else to say.
• Pierce wrote on 2012-04-19 02:21

  Quote from Sekwaf;842224:

  I'm going to take it to mean being self-sufficient. Not necessarily shunning other people, but knowing you can get stuff done without them. As a survivalist and an introvert I strongly support the notion. I know that I can handle myself in most situations, with or without company. There are some times when I prefer not to have anyone, and others when I would like to have a companion (but only if they were a close friend, which I have few enough of). Either way, I like to know that I'll do just fine.

  
  
  Yeah, I feel the same way. Of course you can have friends, family, etc. who could help you in case something goes wrong --could be anything-- but I believe even though they might be willing to help, they won't be around all the time... people don't last forever. Advice is good, but the ultimate choice is up to the one who hears it... I found this quote before posting this (take heaven as providence, divinity, destiny, etc.): "help yourself and heaven will help you".
• Cynic wrote on 2012-04-19 02:22

  Quote from Sekwaf;842224:

  I'm going to take it to mean being self-sufficient. Not necessarily shunning other people, but knowing you can get stuff done without them. As a survivalist and an introvert I strongly support the notion. I know that I can handle myself in most situations, with or without company. There are some times when I prefer not to have anyone, and others when I would like to have a companion (but only if they were a close friend, which I have few enough of). Either way, I like to know that I'll do just fine.

  
  
  ^ Basically that.
  
  There's a difference between being a non-social asshole and being someone who prefers to keep to themselves or in most cases, only rely on those they can truly trust. (which is sometimes nobody for certain people)
  
  Some people just are not as social as others, and it's completely normal. Not everyone needs a ton of friends who they're buddy-buddy with. Some people function better with little to no people, while others function perfectly well alone.
  
  Everyone is different. Claiming that someone is a sad person for not wanting to rely on everyone is not only inaccurate, but ignorant and rude.
• KetoAndApplez wrote on 2012-04-19 02:23
  Disagree, to be able to only rely on yourself is to know why not to rely on others but you can not know that without another person to rely on yourself therefore you must rely on another to be able to rely on yourself but you're actually relying on the other person at the same time : .
• Pierce wrote on 2012-04-19 02:30

  Quote from a:

  Disagree, to be able to only rely on yourself is to know why not to rely on others

  
  
  Yes, I agree.
  
  

  Quote from b:

  but you can not know that without another person to rely on yourself

  
  
  I disagree.
  
  

  Quote from c:

  therefore you must rely on another to be able to rely on yourself

  
  
  That makes sense but b is flawed; therefore c is too.
  
  

  but you're actually relying on the other person at the same time.

  
  
  same as above.