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Twin wrote on 2016-06-23 03:39

Quote from Honey;1296351:
What does boss gear even mean??

Oh .Its a concept I think Vindictus is using already

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Quote from koishi-sempai;1296386:
Minor Magic Revamp

Blaze Rework:

Blaze is now Fire Elemental.
Blaze now charges up and discharges fire magic over a cone and knocks enemies in that cone back.
Caster can move slowly while charging up Blaze.
Cone is roughly the size of Flame Burst.
Damage is 2500 + (MATK * 10) * relevant masteries
Does 150% damage when used with a Savage/Combat Wand.

Mythical

Meteor Strike
Changes:

Cooldown decreased to 10 minutes
Load Time increased to 12 seconds, but reducible by Int, Reforge, Vivace and other Cast Speed reductions
Damage changed increased to 4500 - 11200 + (20.00 * MATK) Fire Damage that IGNORES 50% of enemy defenses and protection
Flame Residual Damage changed to 400 + (1.5 * MATK) that ignores 50% of enemy defenses and protection
Explosion Radius changed to 700 + (1 unit per MATK)
Mana Cost is 20% of Max Mana

Indignation - Thunder Adv Magic

After a short delay, drops several large thunderbolts targeting enemies on the affected area, which slow struck enemies. Enemies are not struck if they move out of the area.

Load Time: 12 seconds, reducible by Cast Speed Reduction
Damage: 1700 + (MATK * 2.5) per bolt. 150% damage if there is a Raincloud over the affected area.
Cooldown: 10 minutes
Radius: 700 + (1.5 units per MATK)
Mana Cost: 20% of Max Mana
Duration: 15 seconds

Diamond Dust
Load time: 15 Seconds, reducible by Cast Speed Reduction
Cooldown: 10 minutes
Radius: 4000 units
Mana Cost: 20% of Max Mana

Freezes all enemeies in a 4000 unit radius for 5 seconds (ignoring all passive defenses), then deals 1250 + (MATK * 10) damage to those enemies, ignoring all passive defenses.

Classification:
Light:
Ice Bolt
Fire Bolt
Lightning Bolt

Medium:
Fireball
Ice Spear
Thunder

Advanced:
Lightning Rod
Hailstorm
Blaze

Mythical:
Meteor Strike
Indignation
Diamond Dust

that's not bad o3o
Honey wrote on 2016-06-23 03:57

Quote from Twin;1296388:
Oh .Its a concept I think Vindictus is using already

I never played Vindictus before but I assume you mean like...items for bossing?
Or perhaps equips bosses use? I'm not really sure what you meant by boss gears, haha :s
Twin wrote on 2016-06-23 08:07

Quote from Honey;1296389:
I never played Vindictus before but I assume you mean like...items for bossing?
Or perhaps equips bosses use? I'm not really sure what you meant by boss gears, haha :s

Some equipable boss gear :D
Aerito wrote on 2016-06-23 15:49

I agree. The boss drops and dungeon loot are really lacking. There's usually nothing realy good to look forward to at the end of a dungeon so it'd be cool if there was a chance to obtain unique armor/weapons that only the boss or end chest drops. It'd make running dungeons actually exciting or rewarding :D
Honey wrote on 2016-06-23 15:56

Sounds cool to me.
Twin wrote on 2016-06-24 23:27

Quote from Honey;1296404:
Sounds cool to me.

Thank you.

I wanted a break-off system (skillful players only) along with our traditional RNG drops (less skillful players). The final results are boss--related gear.

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Er.. ignored the stats. That's part of my defense idea to make shields valuable tanks.
Tropa wrote on 2016-08-09 10:57
Catering
- Diminishing Returns in the same food is used repeatedly.
- Quality of the dishes will expend the duration of the buff.
New Set: Head Chef's
Set Effect: +15 Cooking Quality & Extra Produce from gathering(Food Only)
- The Hat, Smock and Shoes can be obtained from Glewyas by trading 3 in Emain Contest Winner Receipts.
- First Place gets 3 Receipts, Second and Third place gets 2.
Janshai wrote on 2016-08-12 04:20

[FONT="Tahoma"]Facial hair for elves and humans, like they do for the Giants. Also another continent would be cool.[/FONT]
Slayerj wrote on 2016-08-14 20:38

Here it comes again, the dungeon rework idea.

So we now have a central area to teleport to all other dungeons at. That's good...I guess? Honestly it makes all the moon gates at those dungeons kinda pointless but that's fine. Oh, and a quest board!....only for formor scrolls..no party quests...huh...Oh...t-they didn't even touch NORMAL hard mode dungeons...T-The event doesn't even count them? ...W-wow...Uh...everything else seems fine so far though. Things have a lot more hp than before, and it's like, 4 people only for anything that needs a pass? That's one way to balance things out. Eh? Can't barrier spike in Rabbie's new dungeon? So it's just an abyss dungeon with a fancy new name for some reason....classic devkitty. Alright alright, time to fix this.

[SPOILER="Oh my god IT'S A WALL"]Rabbie's new dungeon renamed to be Rabbie Abyss. All passes have a little flavor text about how Abyss has been scratched out and replaced with it's current name. Just something fun.

Dungeon board now has quests for party missions. Party mission exp increased a bit along side the money. You automatically receive a 'dungeon complete' quest upon entering a dungeon. THIS is how you get your money from the dungeons from now on, no more dropping from the end chest. (Thanks for trying with the bags however, that was nice but they didn't always drop bags, got money more than once that should have been in a bag.) On top of that, exp as well that isn't split between the four people running the dungeon.
You can search party quests by dungeon.
You can find a quest board inside any dungeon lobby, even the hard mode lobby.

Dungeon 'normal' passes. They function just like any item you'd drop on an alter but are needed for altering the normal version of a dungeon.

Dungeon recommendation menu altered to be less cumbersome. Really, who wants to talk to an npc, look at all his different options to ask a single question, then ask it again, then again still? This should have just been a list that popped up for you listing each dungeon. Selecting a dungeon will show it's various difficulties along side a recommendation of how hard or easy it should be for you.

The researcher is still there for his shop. Both stores merged into one window with two tabs (Seriously, why the hell....? Even if this is JUST an event...You have other NPCs with event tabs YOU NEVER USE, he could actually USE ONE.) Tuesday he will sell INT and ADV passes for a HIGH amount.

I need to play around more with every dungeon to learn the new mob spawns and such before I can suggest things in more detail. That 3 floor Rundal normal threw me for a loop with constant first floor spiders.....

Pass altering: Pass altering works much the same as it does for the Knights training dungeon. Though you only need to pay gold to alter a pass. Depending on how you alter a pass, your clear dungeon quest will alter as well.

You may alter a pass at the Poulnabrone Rock. Approach the rock and interact with it. Don't ask to move to a dungeon lobby, instead ask to alter an existing pass. You have the option to make the dungeon easier or harder, both will effect end dungeon rewards, both quest and chest alike, as well as monster item drop rates. Making the dungeon easy in any way will decrease your rewards and drop rates a fair bit.

Monster related:----------(total hard: 10, total easy:10)
Increase monster HP 1, 2, and 3. Increases monster HP by 5, 8, and 10 percent.
Frail monsters 1, 2, and 3. Decrease monster HP by 5, 8, and 10%
Living shields 1, 2, and 3. Increase monster Defense and protection by.. 5:2%, 8:5%, and 10:8%
Cracked Skin 1, 2, and 3. Decrease monster Defense and protection by.. 5:2%, 8:5%, and 10:8%
Warded walkers 1, 2, and 3. Increase monster M. Defense and M. Prot by 8:4%, 11:8%, and 15:12%
Magicphobia 1, 2, and 3. Decrease monster M. Defense and M. Prot by 8:4%, 11:8%, and 15:12%
Title Lovers. Increases the likely hood that monsters will have a title of any sort. This doesn't count as making the dungeon harder or weaker as it can go either way.
Magical Power: increases the monsters magic damage by: (I'm not 100% sure how magic damage works anymore...so I'll just leave this blank.)
Power house: increase the monster physical damage by: 20%

Player related:-----------(Total hard: 4, Total easy: 1)
Weakening aura: Player HP, MP, and SP lowered by 30% while in the dungeon.
What's Magic?: Player Int halved.
How do I fight again?: Player str and will halved.
Starving aura: Hunger rate increased by 50%. (I think...)
Training time!: Gain an extra 0.001 training to combat skills on use.

Pet related:--------(Total hard: 1, total easy 2)
Pet playhouse: Pets gain 15%hp 10defense 5 protection 10m.defense 5m.protection
Pet training: Pets gain 45% more exp.
No pets allowed!: Cannot summon a pet while in the dungeon.

If you make the dungeon easy, you must make it harder to compensate or suffer a penalty.
Minus any difficulty: Reward halved, drop rate halved, end chest rewards turned to generic items.
Increase difficulty:
By 3 points, +5% exp +3% gold from end mission.
By 5 points, +15% exp +5% gold from end mission.
By 8 points, +30% exp +8% gold from end mission.
By 11 points, +60% exp +15% gold from end mission.

Titles: Monsters now have new tittles to alter up combat a bit! I have to go so I can't go into this too well...so here's the jist of it.

Titles that make some skills used by the mob stronger or weaker, make them stronger or weaker to elements, stronger or weaker to attacks from some skills, stronger or weaker from attacks from types of weapons, titles that make them immune to sleep and wake up those asleep around them, tittles that make them target rush people when using certain skills, ignoring agro rules, titles that make them target rush based on gender and race, titles that make them get stronger against one of your party members, titles that make them have a healing aura to their friends around them, titles that make them summon 1-3 more monsters for that room, and maybe more.

Also AI changes and such. Blarg, I must gooo![/SPOILER]
Twin wrote on 2016-10-26 21:17

Wow these forums died. Anyways, a Mabi player on BDO

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Slayerj wrote on 2017-01-06 20:33

Just going to throw this here. It's been a long time since I touched mabinogi things or tried to rebalance them. These are just all the basic/lance melee skills rebalanced slightly. The changes are worthless without actually touching how grossly overpowered we are thanks to stats, but...they're here.

[SPOILER="Dumb stuff"]All changes are just showing at rank 1.

"Basic" Melee Skill changes-

Smash-
Cooldown increased to 8 seconds.
Human- dmg: 450% debuff: 65%
Elf- dmg: 400% debuff: 75%
Giant- dmg: 525% debuff: 70%
Axe Defense debuff increased to 10, and protection debuff increased to 5.
2h weapons increase dmg by 100% and crit still by 5%.

Defense-
Cannot be used while being hit and cannot be used for a full second after being hit.

Counter-
Cooldown increased to 10 seconds.
Cannot be used while being hit. Can be used any time after being hit.

Windmill-
Cooldown increased to 6 seconds for all races.
Human dmg changed to 225%.

Final Hit-
Dmg changed to 250%
Active time changed to 30 seconds
Cooldown changed to 5 minutes.
Stamina use increased to 15.
Training made easier to compensate for the longer cooldown.

Evasion-
Uncapped to rank 1.
Evasion Count increased at early ranks to end with 4 at rank 1.
Cooldown changed to 7 seconds per roll.
Elf action limit changed to .3
Elf distance increased to 400.
Giant action limit changed to .5
Giant distance changed to 325.
Human action limit stays at .4

Charge-
Rank 5+ can block a single magic bolt attack stun while still taking full damage.
Elf damage changed to 100%
Giant damage decreased to 200%
Giant splash radius increased to 600 and dmg increased to 75.
Human damage increased to 160%

Stomp-
Dmg increased to 120%
Balance changed to 65%
Load time removed, animation takes .35 seconds for all ranks.
(Wish the wiki had range on this thing...)
Stun time increased to be that of a very slow weapon with units closer to you having even more stun time.
Cooldown is 8 seconds.

Taunt-
Range increased to 500
Min monster increased to 5
Max monster increased to 8
Locks you in with adv heavy armor while using it until the skill is done.
20 second cooldown.
Stamina increased to 20.

Wind Guard-
Can now walk at 75% normal speed.
Can use other skills beside Windmill, but not charge, defend, or counter.
Cooldown increased to 3 minutes and 30 seconds.
Stamina on activation increased to 15
Stamina over time changed to 1 and 1.5 while moving.
Load time changed to .75 seconds.

Lance Charge-
Giant dmg increased to 275%
Linear Radius increased to 225 off a mount and 250 while on a mount.
Targets hit a knocked down like normal in a way that assault slash will work on them.
Cooldown increased to 15 seconds.
Target stun time increased to 3.5

Lance Counter-
Now works more like counter, at any point in the animation you may counter, but you will only get peek damage once fully in the stance.
Cannot be used while getting hit however.
Stamina used increased to 8.
Cooldown is 12 seconds if you counter before being fully in the stance.
Cooldown is 8 seconds if you are fully in the stance and counter.
Cooldown is 5 seconds if you do not counter but the next try will use 2x stamina if used within the next 10 seconds.
Giant dmg from self increased to 250%.

Bash-
Skill changed completely. Now instead of building up charges with the skill being used, you build up charges by normal attacking to fill a bar. At rank 1, 5 normal attacks are needed to fill the bar to allow for a bash to be used.
Each hit from dual wielding counts as a hit to the bar. Crits count as 2 hits.
1st Bash dmg:
Elf: 200%
Human: 225%
Giant: 230%

2nd Bash dmg:
Elf: 220%
Human: 240%
Giant: 260%

3rd Bash dmg:
Elf: 230%
Human: 260%
Giant: 300%

4th and now final Bash dmg, after which the damage stays at 4th level.
Elf: 275%
Human: 300%
Giant: 350%

Skill has a cooldown of 4 seconds so you can't spam it via crits or fast weapons.
Using other skills will not reset the skill count.
You have 10 seconds to bash again before it drops one stage, then you have 5 seconds before it drops fully to 0.
Bash has the same stun time as your weapon +.5 seconds and does not cause knock back, use it to get an extra hit in with your normal attacks or lead into a smash with it.
Bash does not ignore defend or counter anymore.

Rage Impact-
Dmg % increased to 50% of bare hands.
Damage increased to 35% of weapon damage if hit with a crit while skill is usable, for 2 seconds.
Cooldown reduced when hit with a crit by 5 seconds
Cooldown reduced by every normal attack taken by .5 seconds

Lance Mastery-
Giants get additional attacks starting at rank D.
Humans get additional attacks starting at rank B.

Blunt Mastery-
Increase stun from 1h blunts by .15 seconds and by 2h blunts by .25 seconds.
[/SPOILER]
Twin wrote on 2017-01-07 01:07

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Slayerj wrote on 2017-01-07 03:37

Quote from Twin;1298839:
lol

I personally wouldn't think a idea is worthless because of stats weeren't addressed.That part is easy. Skill function is more important imo

A example of function is..like... *diggs through computer trying to remember ideas*

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Take my Guard skill for example. It was taken into consideration fighting mutiple targets and single in a balanced manner

Basically, the tanker is stunned for 80% of the weapons stun duration. That means you can react at a 8/10s of a weapono stun.

70% your weapons stun, the attacker can reazct by eithering doing two attacks , or one attack and retreat

Nice idea. Mabinogi could use more things than simply damage damage damage. Hell, every bit of mabinogi needs an overhaul... Player balance, mob balance, dungeon balance, mission balance, AI changes, interesting AI and mobs/monster skills...

I like how for that old......uh....brain fart...some anime cross over, we had characters from their show in the game with unique skills that TOOK TIME TO MAKE AND CODE, just for them and for nothing else. We basically had an event with a lot of time put into it with a time limit slapped on it. What even is the development of this game anymore?

Just need a new 'mabinogi like' that isn't just some guys ideas and concepts.

[SPOILER="More dumb stuff."]Dungeon Changes-

Dungeons don't run on the same system they do now, they aren't 100% 'random' with a very lenier path. The dungeons are built, based on the diffictuly, with a set path to generate.

Alby normal, for example...

-------R---------C
Start room R ------l------D---------B
------K l
--------T-------C

SO, this doesn't work to show this well on here so....just..ignore this.....Just picture slightly branching paths that two connect to each other and such.

R = Room, may have mobs, may not.
- and l = hallway, may have mods, may not.
D = door room that needs a key to enter.
T = traped room or trapped hall that may spawn mobs or have something to harm you.
C = chest room or chest in a hall.
B = boss room.

Set as.....
Path A
Start Path B
Path C

Paths can meet up, have traps, have required items, or be completely optional. Path C could have had everything you needed to open the dungeon up, or path A could have a key for path C while path B is nothing but traps.

Traps can be in rooms with mobs already as well. They can either deal damage, or alert more mobs. Only mob trigers are sometimes invisiable. Any trap that can damage you is always visable. Mobs alerted might apear in the room, or spawn in distant parts of the already completed dungeon and make it/their way to the group to catch you off gaurd.
Rooms aren't sealed upon triggering monsters always, and sometimes monsters will tripper a room seal to keep everyone in the room.
This would work well with great AI and monster reworks..
Rooms also can now come in more sizes and shapes than...square...
This would obviously take a long while to create the system...or..maybe? I don't know. I don't know hwo much of this is possible...just, things ya know?[/SPOILER]
Twin wrote on 2017-01-07 21:21

Quote from Slayerj;1298841:
Nice idea. Mabinogi could use more things than simply damage damage damage. Hell, every bit of mabinogi needs an overhaul... Player balance, mob balance, dungeon balance, mission balance, AI changes, interesting AI and mobs/monster skills...

Thanks. It was actually 1 of 2 shield skills i created to make shields along with tankingviable. I planned to make every single weapon viable . Giving it own special skills / playstyles. You ever notice - some weapons don't have unique skillls?

Dual-wield : Final hit (techinally)
Knuckle : Fighter
Lance : Lance exclusive
Mace : nothing
Shield: nothing

I also think final hit / bash is a huge cruch. And will force future skills to be broken or useless. But I figured out how to take away its importance without nerfing it :)

Quote from Slayerj;1298841:

I like how for that old......uh....brain fart...some anime cross over, we had characters from their show in the game with unique skills that TOOK TIME TO MAKE AND CODE, just for them and for nothing else. We basically had an event with a lot of time put into it with a time limit slapped on it. What even is the development of this game anymore?

Just need a new 'mabinogi like' that isn't just some guys ideas and concepts.

[SPOILER="More dumb stuff."]Dungeon Changes-

Dungeons don't run on the same system they do now, they aren't 100% 'random' with a very lenier path. The dungeons are built, based on the diffictuly, with a set path to generate.

Alby normal, for example...

-------R---------C
Start room R ------l------D---------B
------K l
--------T-------C

SO, this doesn't work to show this well on here so....just..ignore this.....Just picture slightly branching paths that two connect to each other and such.

R = Room, may have mobs, may not.
- and l = hallway, may have mods, may not.
D = door room that needs a key to enter.
T = traped room or trapped hall that may spawn mobs or have something to harm you.
C = chest room or chest in a hall.
B = boss room.

Set as.....
Path A
Start Path B
Path C

Paths can meet up, have traps, have required items, or be completely optional. Path C could have had everything you needed to open the dungeon up, or path A could have a key for path C while path B is nothing but traps.

Traps can be in rooms with mobs already as well. They can either deal damage, or alert more mobs. Only mob trigers are sometimes invisiable. Any trap that can damage you is always visable. Mobs alerted might apear in the room, or spawn in distant parts of the already completed dungeon and make it/their way to the group to catch you off gaurd.
Rooms aren't sealed upon triggering monsters always, and sometimes monsters will tripper a room seal to keep everyone in the room.
This would work well with great AI and monster reworks..
Rooms also can now come in more sizes and shapes than...square...
This would obviously take a long while to create the system...or..maybe? I don't know. I don't know hwo much of this is possible...just, things ya know?[/SPOILER]

Nah its definitely possible . believe meh. The main issue is nexon not caring . and being lazy *shutters thinking about bash and dance of death coding*
koishi-sempai wrote on 2017-03-26 21:35

delete the eweca skills

or cap duration at 2.5 minutes

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