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Episkey wrote on 2012-04-27 00:45
Quote from Yoorah;849683:
The short answer is that agencies like the NSA and the CIA do important work. But much of it can be controversial, especially in the court of the (uninformed) public opinion. :P Having to go through the court system all the time worked well in the past, but with things happening so fast on the internet, the government's capabilities are falling behind. This means inefficiency, and ultimately those agencies can't do their job as well as they could have.
Controversy is not foreign to me, since almost everything can be considered controversial.
Although I do agree about being efficient, but do you believe this is the right route to go?
Also, what is the lack of information you seem to be referring to?
Quote from paladin;849686:
What is the job
We should have a Yoorah v Spartaa debate someday
About what? :lol:
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MareneCorp wrote on 2012-04-27 00:46
Can't tell if stupid or turning into a dictatorship.
Who puts these nutjobs in their job?
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paladin wrote on 2012-04-27 00:57
Quote from MareneCorp;849700:
Can't tell if stupid or turning into a dictatorship.
Who puts these nutjobs in their job?
The dim public
the general populus is smart
Its jsut that their kept in the dark and or lazy
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Sekwaf wrote on 2012-04-27 01:38
Meh, I have no secrets to keep from the government. I'm not going to say whether it's just or not, as it could actually be used to prevent cybercrime and such, I'm not going to rule that out, nor am I saying it could be abused. Still, it's hardly like we're all going on the internet to do stuff that is blatantly illegal. And of course, it's not like they can watch all of us, all the time, if we must get up to some mischief, chances are they won't notice a random proxy (if they can even monitor us on that level) and we can go about our sneaky business. Chances are they're not going to waste their time to track you down for anything minor.
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Kayate wrote on 2012-04-27 01:48
I say it won't last since they most likey pissed off the internet.
Also ehat is tbe stuff the stuff they added.
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User495 wrote on 2012-04-27 01:55
Quote from Excalibur;849693:
By the power imbued in me, I hereby veto this bill.
pfft, your only power [SIZE="1"](that is related to vetoing)[/SIZE] is to dethrown the king of Britain, and possibly shooting giant fortress destroying laser beams
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Cynic wrote on 2012-04-27 01:57
Well, the White House threatened to veto it, so we'll see what happens.
I can't say I would blame them if they didn't, though.
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Hazeri wrote on 2012-04-27 23:46
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Rin wrote on 2012-04-28 02:24
It won't pass the White House with the current amendments as they are.
That much I can trust in.
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-04-28 03:16
eh, CISPA is more likely than SOPA to pass
because SOPA blocks content
hurt businesses
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Spartaaaaa wrote on 2012-04-28 23:07
Quote from Episkey;849695:
About what? :lol:
About piracy I guess. Though we already had that debate a while ago (
http://mabination.com/threads/47521-Obama-Bypasses-Congress-with-Deadly-Global-Internet-Treaty-ACTA).
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-05-01 23:23
Even if Obama veto's it, the House and Senate can rally again to bypass the veto :/
We still got a chunk of time. We could buy more time if we could force Obama to hold off on looking at it. Not sure how much time the President has before he has to sign or veto though.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-05-01 23:40
Quote from Kingofrunes;853451:
Even if Obama veto's it, the House and Senate can rally again to bypass the veto :/
We still got a chunk of time. We could buy more time if we could force Obama to hold off on looking at it. Not sure how much time the President has before he has to sign or veto though.
Well, I highly doubt he'll sign it. While he
did show support for ACTA, he hasn't shown any for CISPA. And seeing as Obama seems to be pretty vocal about what he does and doesn't support, it's safe to say that he won't sign it. The only question is whether or not he will veto it.
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-05-02 00:07
Obama supports CISPA with the exception of one provision, actually. It's in an article somewhere.