8/16 Season 2 Part 3 Update

• Akemii wrote on 2012-08-14 06:06
  wow guys everyone seems so happy about vella
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-08-14 06:51
  I am not, I was hoping she would be using different weapons :( Like 2 daggers. Also how cool would it be if her second weapon are twin pistols.
• Invertex wrote on 2012-08-14 06:54
  I believe that was meant to be sarcastic.
  
  As much as I hate to see lazy recycles in terms of resources, but they've already done this for a while. I don't think I've seen anyone complain that Lann and Fiona share run animations.
• Akemii wrote on 2012-08-14 06:57

  Quote from TLCBonaparte;933342:

  I am not, I was hoping she would be using different weapons :( Like 2 daggers. Also how cool would it be if her second weapon are twin pistols.

  
  
  Seems pretty unrealistic, the two pistols I mean.
• TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-08-14 07:15

  Quote from Akemii;933345:

  Seems pretty unrealistic, the two pistols I mean.

  
  
  Why do you say that?
• Elleanior wrote on 2012-08-14 09:35

  Quote from TLCBonaparte;933350:

  Why do you say that?

  
  Because they don't seem to fit the theme and apparent timeframe of Vindictus.
  
  But unless I'm mistaken, one of the pirates might actually have a pistol. I didn't double-check.
• Invertex wrote on 2012-08-14 09:54

  Quote from Elleanior;933380:

  Because they don't seem to fit the theme and apparent timeframe of Vindictus.
  
  But unless I'm mistaken, one of the pirates might actually have a pistol. I didn't double-check.

  
  
  Goblins have full size cannons, the Pirate Captain wields a pistol in one hand and a sword in the other. Bombs also exist, and they use gunpowder.
  
  So technically guns fit the theme/timeframe now that pirates and all that are shoved in, but it's worth noting that the only "ranged" attackers we have right now are Kai and Evie. Kai has no 2nd weapon yet and Staff Evie was originally a melee combo character with hotkey spells. Honestly Kai's 2nd weapon is coming sooner than Vella's, so you might as well shift your gun wielding hopes to Kai for now.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-08-14 09:58
  Magic = Legit
  
  Guns = Omg no
• Kollin wrote on 2012-08-14 10:49

  Quote from OizenX;933385:

  Magic = Legit
  
  Guns = Omg no

  
  
  I know right? Even though we have gunpowder and are more than capable of using it for firearms, much like the Fomors do.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2012-08-14 12:32

  Quote from Invertex;933343:

  As much as I hate to see lazy recycles in terms of resources, but they've already done this for a while. I don't think I've seen anyone complain that Lann and Fiona share run animations.

  
  
  Run animations don't have much of anything on gameplay, maybe that's why.
• Invertex wrote on 2012-08-14 12:37

  Quote from MareneCorp;933406:

  Run animations don't have much of anything on gameplay, maybe that's why.

  
  
  Same could techincally be applied to anything. Would it really change the game if Lann just slid around for all his moves and his swords magically moved on his own? Yes it'd look weird, but the move properties would all still be identical.
  
  Vella recycles quite a few animations, yes. But it's been established that she does not play like Sword Lann. Not just by one person either, by quite a few people.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2012-08-14 12:43
  Then again, why bother with changing up animations?
  All Asians look the same anyway.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-08-14 12:48

  Quote from Invertex;933407:

  Same could techincally be applied to anything. Would it really change the game if Lann just slid around for all his moves and his swords magically moved on his own? Yes it'd look weird, but the move properties would all still be identical.
  
  Vella recycles quite a few animations, yes. But it's been established that she does not play like Sword Lann. Not just by one person either, by quite a few people.

  
  
  She actually does.
  
  All the melee characters (as I've previously said) really blend together, while some of her attacks might be a little different, you're going to have almost the exact same experience as playing a lann. I know a lot of people with this same story too.
  
  We dont need more close range, dodge heavy melee classes. We already have Swords,Spears,Pillars,Cestus,More Swords, Hammers and Scythes.
  
  I got bored out of my skull when trying to make a karok due to the entire melee feel being dull and repeated. While I got my Kai to 60.
• Invertex wrote on 2012-08-14 13:01

  Quote from MareneCorp;933409:

  Then again, why bother with changing up animations?
  All Asians look the same anyway.

  
  
  Variety is honestly the only reason they change animations at all. There is no gameplay reason except to offer visual feedback.
  
  Seriously, the majority of Vella complaints are since they recycled animations so the visual feedback says "She's identical to Lann". Sure they could've made a new dashing slash attack animation, but all it would've done is make her look different.
  
  
  Also I'm not going to argue the "all melee is identical", since I still believe that it's generalizing the characters too much. I mean sure more ranged characters would be nice, but I'm fairly certain that whenver a new ranged character gets released: it's just going to be "all ranged characters feel the same" after we get 3-4 of them.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2012-08-14 13:12

  Quote from Invertex;933418:

  Also I'm not going to argue the "all melee is identical", since I still believe that it's generalizing the characters too much. I mean sure more ranged characters would be nice, but I'm fairly certain that whenver a new ranged character gets released: it's just going to be "all ranged characters feel the same" after we get 3-4 of them.

  
  
  All playstyles feel the same is basically it. There are only so many different classes out there, but we don't see enough of magic. (Then again, Evie covers nearly every single thing available out there, fire, ice, alchemy, arcane)