These new bosses.

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Oizen wrote on 2012-06-15 19:18

Really seem to lag me with their abundance of particle effects.

Whenever the ice dragon summons a lot of ice at once

When Keaghan spams that dark aura

When Siglint uses a lot of thunder.

my frame rate goes down a lot :|
Yanm wrote on 2012-06-15 19:30

Quote from OizenX;887598:
Really seem to lag me with their abundance of particle effects.

Whenever the ice dragon summons a lot of ice at once

When Keaghan spams that dark aura

When Siglint uses a lot of thunder.

my frame rate goes down a lot :|

I'd have to go back to Keaghan and the Ice Dragon to check how far I drop, but I do noticed that I went down to 21-24 FPS while fighting Siglint. Doesn't really hinder my gameplay though, Siglint is still easy for Sword Lanns for the most part.
Atrus wrote on 2012-06-16 02:22

Haven't been noticing much lag, but have been seeing a lot of party wipes. These new bosses are rather tough. Those constant DoT's that Siglint throws out which arc from person to person so you still get them even if you dodge the attack.

On the topic of the lag, were you hosting or was it someone else? Many of the episode 10 raids have more physical rasters than any other raids other than the army's of colhen ones. The only 8 person raid even close would be Colru, and he doesn't have as much particle effects.
foreignreign wrote on 2012-06-17 04:10

Siglint is surprisingly smooth for me (I lag pretty hard in Sewers even when soloing) unless there's like 5 thunderbolts on me, but that's only for like a second, so...
Elleanior wrote on 2012-06-17 04:54

Only problems I've been having are from: Bad connection (that affects everything), the fact that very few people so far can fight these bosses decently -- only a few people are really used to the attack sequences already, and Siglint's chain lightning.

I've only encountered FPS problems when Siglint uses 4 AoE's in a row, which he does often enough.
BizarreJuju wrote on 2012-06-17 08:14

Had a constant party wipe at Siglint, wasted so much Goddess when entire party disband.

That circle is soo annoying, it still get you outside the circle :v
Oizen wrote on 2012-06-17 11:02

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Had a constant party wipe at Siglint, wasted so much Goddess when entire party disband.

That circle is soo annoying, it still get you outside the circle :v

Is it me or is the hit box more like this:

[Image: http://i48.tinypic.com/2cxys1d.jpg]

Wasn't sure how to describe it, so I just drew it. Anyway whenever I see the cricles start to appear, I mash shift and run in the other direction. Seems to work better then Slip honestly.
Invertex wrote on 2012-06-17 11:17

My guess is that it's due to the fact someone else got hit by it close to you.

The lightning DoT arcs to nearby party members, so you'll get hit but not as hard.
Oizen wrote on 2012-06-17 13:12

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My guess is that it's due to the fact someone else got hit by it close to you.

The lightning DoT arcs to nearby party members, so you'll get hit but not as hard.

Thats....incredibly unfair to anyone not a staff evie or kai.

But hey, thats this game.
Invertex wrote on 2012-06-17 13:24

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Thats....incredibly unfair to anyone not a staff evie or kai.

But hey, thats this game.

Getting hit by the arc always gives you DoT, meaning everyone gets hurt by it equally. Pretty sure the arcing is also considered an unblockable, so Fiona can't block it. The lightning actually breaks through Amber to my knowledge, so I don't see how Staff Evie gets out any easier. Kai maybe, but there are only two variations of the circle. One that tracks locations and one that hits in a fixed pattern around him at mid range. So depending on Kai's range, he'd be right in middle of both versions.

Really this boss is a huge jerk to everyone. Scythe Evie, Sword Lann, and Karok are probably the best suited for Siglint.

But he's pretty doable. Playing safe has resulted in me not dying too much and still doing enough damage. As long as your party can interupt his healing, he really isn't that durable.

Though as a Fiona, I use Sprint Smash more often than HS in order to stay alive. Says something about this boss.
Oizen wrote on 2012-06-17 14:03

Sprint smash? Why not just Sprint Dash? You get farther.

And I find it hilarious how Sword Lanns can slip dash Keaghan's Bind all and impale random person skill. It looks so weird
Invertex wrote on 2012-06-17 14:05

You might want to fix your white text there.

I do both, I get to the edge of the circles by spamming sprint and then smashing out of it. It lets me dodge 2/3 of the unblockables, and I just stay at the sides to avoid the instant kills completely.

Keaghen is just a pain. I still can't figure out what's blockable or unblockable. I just end up tanking everything.
Oizen wrote on 2012-06-17 14:09

Quote from Invertex;888559:
You might want to fix your white text there.

I do both, I get to the edge of the circles by spamming sprint and then smashing out of it. It lets me dodge 2/3 of the unblockables, and I just stay at the sides to avoid the instant kills completely.

Keaghen is just a pain. I still can't figure out what's blockable or unblockable. I just end up tanking everything.

Its a habbit from another form with a black background, I cant seem to keep myself from typing it anymore.

I dont really get why people stand in the center while the dragon picks them off, if you stand at the sides and throw bombs inward you're safe =/
Meh, the randoms will learn eventually.

Yeah he's pretty tough on Fiona, especially in his 2nd form. I think he'd be way easier if the arena wasn't so small.
Invertex wrote on 2012-06-17 14:21

Quote from OizenX;888561:
Its a habbit from another form with a black background, I cant seem to keep myself from typing it anymore.

I dont really get why people stand in the center while the dragon picks them off, if you stand at the sides and throw bombs inward you're safe =/
Meh, the randoms will learn eventually.

Yeah he's pretty tough on Fiona, especially in his 2nd form. I think he'd be way easier if the arena wasn't so small.

Well it's 'safe' for everyone except Fiona and Spear Lann. Karoks want to be in the middle to clash, since that's a guaranteed knockdown. Sword Lanns who are confident can slip dash, and use that to bait Siglint to come to closer hemdrill for the knockdown. Staff Evies can just amber through it, so they also can do the same thing. Pretty sure Scythe Evie can blink out of it as well.

That and if there's nobody in the middle for him to target, he starts shooting electric balls. Nobody likes Siglint spamming electric balls.

Though for sure if a Fiona is running around in the middle, it's a bit silly at this point.

Keaghen for me is just so random. I know his moves... but I don't. He's a huge stamina drain too, so I can never tell if I should be going in to attack or not since I need at least half stamina to get out of most things. Sword helps since you can move faster, and it's the only boss I've ever fought (sides Hero) where I feel a Hammer is just too slow.

From the Keaghen run I did just now, which was 3 Evies 2 Fionas, it just seems that it's better to have the Fionas just literally meat shield and hold aggro so the Evies can keep casting. Which makes sense given that Keaghen is the first small boss in a very long time. The last bosses of his size were back in Ep8, with non raid bosses. The only other small raid boss is like... Blood Lord.

I've been getting 20-25% damage on Beokros and Siglint, about 15% on Elchulus (no idea why my output is so low on this one), and only ~13% on Keaghen.
Oizen wrote on 2012-06-17 14:49

Keaghan isn't very fun for any melees. He's so small and his attacks have insane reach, Spear lanns cant get away in time on him. Fionas are just over all slow, only the melees with good dodges can really ever get in there for his first segment.

For his 2nd, my god I cant even damage him in it, Im too busy slip dashing all his insane aoe's. I'll get like 1 Dobule crecent in once in a while but thats it. I cant imagine what this is like for a non invinc frame class.

I've only run keaghan like once and I scored ~12% on him. Did a Siglint run and got ~13% Haven't done the others yet, but Im dying too. Just been too busy for them all.

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