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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-07-10 15:12
CHILLIWACK, B.C. — A group of Chilliwack vigilantes have been warned again by police to stop luring and then exposing potential child sex offenders.
The youths made headlines last month with a series of “gotcha†videos posted to their “To Troll A Predator†Facebook page.
The four young men, aged 17 to 30, posed online as underage girls promising sexual encounters and then lured potential predators to public spaces and accosted them dressed as superheroes, such as Batman and The Flash.
They posted at least three videos on YouTube, garnering hundreds of thousands of hits and acclaim.
In mid-November, they were warned by police to cease their activities. But the group appears to have resumed their ad-hoc crime-fighting.
About a week ago, the group posted on their YouTube page, titled, The Justice Trolls: “Sorry we haven’t made a video in a while. We’ve been dealing with the police still — and busy with other things in our lives. We will most likely be making a video tonight.â€
Then on Monday morning, they posted this message to their Facebook account: “Wanted to let everybody know in the process of trying to make another video last night we had a 24-year-old man coming to meet a 15 year old girl … a police officer (who) happened to be in the parking lot caught us before we were able to get any video footage, but the predator did get taken away in the squad car and was detained until further investigation could be completed.â€
Const. Tracey Wolbeck of the Upper Fraser Valley RCMP detachment said police “can confirm that … they were active again.â€
Wolbeck added that the four were cautioned to stop their activities, explaining that even if their hearts seem to be in the right place, “police will not condone vigilantism.â€
She said they weren’t arrested or charged, but didn’t rule it out if they persisted in their activities in the future.
E Division’s Integrated Child Exploitation unit was called in to assist with investigation of the men lured by the teens. There is no word yet on charges stemming from the youths’ extra-legal exploits.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/12/08/stop-trolling-for-sex-offenders-police-to-b-c-s-vigilante-superheroes/
here is their youtubes
http://www.youtube.com/user/ToTrollAPredatorTV/videos
a sample of their videos
[video=youtube;DvU69L-jfks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvU69L-jfks&feature=plcp[/video]
Chris hanson does it better though :O
Anyways
IRL Trolling not allowed :/
Edit: realized this is an old article :/
damnit
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Cynic wrote on 2012-07-10 15:51
So they're not allowed to be doing what the police should be doing? Oh the irony.
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whocares8128 wrote on 2012-07-10 16:48
Quote from Cynic;905501:
So they're not allowed to be doing what the police should be doing? Oh the irony.
Well, police have to be very careful about doing these kinds of things, or risk the case being thrown out as
entrapment.
The line between detecting criminal behavior and encouraging it can be rather thin.
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Meikeru wrote on 2012-07-10 18:53
http://www.perverted-justice.com/
Even those who volunteer here have to get training to make sure it's not entrapment.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-07-10 19:03
"Luring" means "asking them to do it, probably repeatedly". Would probably not have done anything otherwise. This is how all these people work, making the victim sidestep their conventional moral (I don't wanna get me/her in trouble so I'm not gonna do it) by repeatedly appealing to their baser instincts.
15 years is a perfectly fine age for any sort of activity anyway.
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Phunkie wrote on 2012-07-10 19:08
Quote from Sumpfkraut;905590:
"Luring" means "asking them to do it, probably repeatedly". Would probably not have done anything otherwise. This is how all these people work, making the victim sidestep their conventional moral (I don't wanna get me/her in trouble so I'm not gonna do it) by repeatedly appealing to their baser instincts.
15 years is a perfectly fine age for any sort of activity anyway.
16 years old should be the age of consent, IMO.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-07-10 19:09
Quote from Phunkie;905593:
16 years old should be the age of consent, IMO.
That concept shouldn't exist IMO.
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-07-11 11:40
Ya, I don't really approve of this way to catch these predators. If you push it onto them, it's entrapment. The key is to get them to make the first move without encouraging/enticing them. If the person trying to lure them makes the first move or is pressured/pushed to make the first move, it's entrapment.
It's that simple. (In my mind)
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Meikeru wrote on 2012-07-11 18:14
Quote from Kingofrunes;906195:
Ya, I don't really approve of this way to catch these predators. If you push it onto them, it's entrapment. The key is to get them to make the first move without encouraging/enticing them. If the person trying to lure them makes the first move or is pressured/pushed to make the first move, it's entrapment.
It's that simple. (In my mind)
So basically typing like you're brain dead.
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-07-11 22:23
Quote from Meikeru;906359:
So basically typing like you're brain dead.
I'm sorry, I don't follow you. I'm not sure if you are insulting me in a rather snide way or insulting the vigilantes.
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Meikeru wrote on 2012-07-11 22:34
Quote from Kingofrunes;906581:
I'm sorry, I don't follow you. I'm not sure if you are insulting me in a rather snide way or insulting the vigilantes.
Oh no. Nothing of the sort. You were saying how they get them to make the first move without encouraging/enticing them. I was referencing the way the majority of teenagers type, without grammar nor any spell check. Hence the brain dead.
I apologize if I may have offended you.