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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-07-12 09:39
Yes, I would rather we know nothing about anyone, but that wouldn't stop basic security systems from being put in place such as the scanners that were around forever. One huge incident happened over ten years ago and other smaller incidents have happened too. We can improve our security, if necessary, without storing images and info about people. The thing is, so few things happen in the first place that it's a pretty insignificant, nearly nonexistent problem in the first place.
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Maenad wrote on 2012-07-12 09:41
Quote from RebeccaBlack;907225:
Yes, I would rather we know nothing about anyone, but that wouldn't stop basic security systems from being put in place such as the scanners that were around forever. One huge incident happened over ten years ago and other smaller incidents have happened too. We can improve our security, if necessary, without storing images and info about people. The thing is, so few things happen in the first place that it's a pretty insignificant, nearly nonexistent problem in the first place.
Laws could be put into place to prevent storage of data. There's no rule saying a scanner has to store info, now is there?
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-07-12 09:47
Sure, a law could be put into place, theoretically.
But it hasn't been. And they're still doing it with no sign of slowing down.
It actually looks like more effort has been made to allow further invasion of privacy.
I can't tell you what "might" happen, only what is happening, what has been happening, and what it seems like will continue to happen.
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Yoorah wrote on 2012-07-12 16:35
The main reason why we haven't had major incidents since then is because the CIA, the NSA and the DHS have been secretly and not secretly violating your privacy all along. A lot of stuff goes on behind the scenes that you know nothing about, some of it of questionable legality.
My main concern about this is the health risk. What's the radiation like from this, if there even is any at all? I'd rather have people touch me than go through an x-ray scanner if I were a frequent flyer, personally.
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Chiyuri wrote on 2012-07-12 16:47
I dislike security. I can't carry weapons for my own security without been treated like a blood thirsty terrorist..
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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-07-12 17:07
I don't know how much was truly prevented, and certainly a lot is being hidden from us or lied about, but we never had many airplane incidents in the first place. That's what it comes down to. As it stands, the chance of getting killed by a terrorist attack on a plane is about 1 in 25 million. It's been argued that people are
just as likely to die from the scanners, even if you throw out the huge privacy issues entirely.
I'm not saying more wasn't possible in the past, because it was, but it basically doesn't make a difference when it's causing a problem so tiny that people almost shouldn't bother talking about it.
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PorcelainVienna wrote on 2012-07-12 19:41
Quote from RebeccaBlack;906090:
Would they stop fucking doing this shit? Are we really that paranoid that we need this? We need less "security" and privacy invasion, not more. What's wrong with these people that keeping body scans and going through the whole security system just isn't enough? How messed up are they and how can they possibly justify this or keep it legal? It's fine if it's just some privately owned thing in some place, because then it's optional, but to put it in streets and airports and everywhere else we have to go if we want to go outside and know they're storing this kind of information about us, without our consent or (in most cases) knowledge, is way beyond crossing the line. I can't even leave the country in disgust without having such information stored about me because I have to go through an airport or border checkpoint first.
I really need to get out of here as soon as I can, as this country is getting real creepy real fast. And don't give me that "you have nothing to hide, don't you?" crap. I've never owned a gun or used drugs. I'm just a person who is tired of the terrible decisions that have been made and are continuing to be made.
Well put.
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MareneCorp wrote on 2012-07-12 19:50
Terrorist threats happen in the first place because the American government fucks up first. Just saying. A little bit unnecessary to be looking at every snatch and twizzler for your entertainment rather than actually looking for drugs, I doubt many security workers actually do their job purely for the sake of "protecting their country."