The Rules of Tonight's Presidential Debate Romney Vs. Obama

• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-10-04 20:11
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  On a serious note:
  Romney was Moderate Romney last night
  not Southern Conservative Romney he had been in the primaries
  [video=youtube;jebDlVAcpGo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jebDlVAcpGo&feature=player_embedded[/video]
  
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• Claudia wrote on 2012-10-04 20:37
  I was about to say, I just about fucking died every time Romney interrupted Jim Lehrer.
• Drizzit wrote on 2012-10-04 22:12

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;959323:

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  On a serious note:
  Romney was Moderate Romney last night
  not Southern Conservative Romney he had been in the primaries
  [QUOTE]Romney is always just one thing, politician Romney. He's turned talking out of both sides of his mouth into a freaking science, and giving the fact that most Americans only remember the last thing they saw on TV, that works pretty well for him.
  
  [QUOTE=Cucurbita;959164]The average population isn't going to fact check. On top of that combined with Obama being visibly flustered and pushed, Romney really made himself look right tonight. So in that sense, you could say he "won" the debate. Tonight was all about putting on a show for the undecided, and I think he pulled that off well.
  
  

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  I love this meme.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-10-04 22:15
  Our Country is fucked with all the stupid dumbasses we have in this country if all their information they rely on comes from a TV without any critical thinking or fact checking involved.
  
  *sigh*
• Osayidan wrote on 2012-10-04 22:31
  Meanwhile in Canadia, we watched the debate at lunch and all of my coworkers are now worried about the future of america.
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-10-04 22:37

  Quote from Osayidan;959383:

  Meanwhile in Canadia, we watched the debate at lunch and all of my coworkers are now worried about the future of america.

  
  
  Romney will order an invasion of Canada to claim the national maple syrup reserves
• Yoorah wrote on 2012-10-04 22:50
  Obama's the one who was an ass to Canada (and by extension, screwed over the US) with his rejection of the Keystone XL pipeline. :(
• Osayidan wrote on 2012-10-04 23:56
  Relevant image
  

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• paladin wrote on 2012-10-05 00:06

  Quote from Yoorah;959390:

  Obama's the one who was an ass to Canada (and by extension, screwed over the US) with his rejection of the Keystone XL pipeline. :(

  
  
  Obama wanted to have more studies on it
  normally your on that side whats with that?
• Yoorah wrote on 2012-10-05 00:24
  Nope, he only did it to impress the environmentalists from which he gets a lot of support. He wanted to delay it until after the elections, which is pretty lame when it's such an important issue that affects so many people. Canada was forced to seek ways to diversify its energy strategy as a result, with the US no longer seen as reliable enough to be our sole buyer (i.e., sell the oil to China at higher rates, instead of the below-market rates at which we've been selling it to the US).
  
  It was a massive screwup on Obama's part, when it would have boosted job creation at a time when it's so needed--all for scoring political points with some losers.
• Yoorah wrote on 2012-10-07 00:28
  Fareed Zakaria wrote an interesting piece relating to the debate:
  
  
  

  12:26 PM ET
  A greater challenge to Obama than a strong debater
  
  Watch "Fareed Zakaria GPS" Sundays at 10 a.m. and 1 p.m. ET on CNN.
  
  By Fareed Zakaria
  
  Sometimes the conventional wisdom is right. Minutes after the Denver presidential debate, the pundits declared Mitt Romney the clear winner. And he was. He seemed engaged, forceful and punchy. President Obama seemed passive, detached and glum.
  
  But what's more significant than how Romney said things was what he said.
  
  Romney repeatedly insisted that he was not advocating a big tax cut. In fact, he declared unequivocally that he would not cut taxes at all if they added to the deficit at all. Now, as the Washington Post's Glenn Kessler points out in his fact checking column, for two years Romney has been campaigning on a tax cut that that would cost around $5 trillion over 10 years. Romney does claim that he would eliminate deductions and cut spending to pay for it but he hasn't given any details. Well, he offered one at the debate. He would cut funding for public broadcasting, which was 0.01% of federal spending in 2012. Medicare was 13%.
  
  But, anyway that appears to be off the table. Romney is also in favor of regulations, including parts of the Dodd-Frank bill, and repeatedly held up as a model his health care plan in Massachusetts, which has at its center the individual mandate, and on which Obamacare is based.
  
  Romney's transformation did not happen overnight. The candidate has been reworking his stump speech. In a very smart analysis, NPR pointed out that Romney now has a five-point stump speech. The first four points are actually identical to Barack Obama's stump speech: he argues for (1) Exports (2) Domestic energy (3) Retraining and (4) Deficit reduction. It's only on the 5th that they diverge. Romney talks about small businesses, Obama about national security.
  
  I've long argued that Romney is an intelligent man trapped in a party that has forced him to embrace extreme and impossible positions. One of his advisers had predicted that once the Republican primaries were over, Romney would erase the image from the primaries and, like an Etch-a-Sketch, just draw a new one. Well, he appears to be doing just that. The Republican Party might hate Obama enough and be frustrated enough, to wink and let him do it.
  
  If so, Obama faces something far more challenging than a good debater in the last weeks of the campaign. He faces a moderate Republican.

  
  Source: http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/05/a-greater-challenge-to-obama-than-a-strong-debater/
  
  Here's the NPR analysis he cites: http://www.npr.org/2012/10/03/162246644/romney-obama-have-parallel-points-on-the-economy
  
  Why Obama failed in the debate: http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/04/politics/debate-fumble/index.html
• Osayidan wrote on 2012-10-07 00:30
  I'm pretty sure obama lost because it was his anniversary. His wife was pissed, and now he's sleeping on the couch in the oval office and isn't gettin' any.
• Drizzit wrote on 2012-10-09 07:06

  Quote from Yoorah;960341:

  Fareed Zakaria wrote an interesting piece relating to the debate:
  
  
  
  Source: http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/05/a-greater-challenge-to-obama-than-a-strong-debater/
  
  Here's the NPR analysis he cites: http://www.npr.org/2012/10/03/162246644/romney-obama-have-parallel-points-on-the-economy
  
  Why Obama failed in the debate: http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/04/politics/debate-fumble/index.html

  Mitt Romney has never been a hardcore conservative. The astounding part is that he was ever able to convince to GOP that he was.