Pally or DK for Kai?

• RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-18 11:19
  So I was wondering which one to pick for Kai. I mean, there's really not much of a difference, but I noticed the Pally Aura regenerates SP (which I feel like Kai needs), and the DK one causes a max stamina increase (and Kai doesn't use much stamina at all). Any thoughts?
  Also, does slowdown work on bosses?
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-10-18 11:24
  Dark Knight. SP regen is minimal.
• Excalibur wrote on 2012-10-18 11:28
  From what I heard, slow down affects the boss by a minimal amount. The SP regen is also very small, as Rebecca has stated. You should go DK just for the damage boost it gives.
• Dracius wrote on 2012-10-18 18:43
  Apparently, Dark Knight is better for everyone right now.
  But if you're into aesthetics, Paladin Kai has his own unique look, while Dark Knight is a copypasta of Lann.
• JinNJuice wrote on 2012-10-18 21:24
  Here's my lazy way to see it.
  
  Do you have more Defense? Paladin for ultra buffed Defense.
  Do you have more HP? Dark Knight for more worthy Steal.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-10-18 22:23
  Dark Knight is best for everyone once you learn how to not get hit.
• Invertex wrote on 2012-10-18 23:23

  Quote from OizenX;965459:

  Dark Knight is best for everyone once you learn how to not get hit.

  
  
  You don't even have to learn that much. DK is just straight up better with the current state of the game.
  
  Given how easy it is to build SP once you invest in relevant skills, 200 SP versus a boost of 150 Stam is pretty bad. Of note that you could probably stay in SH for 60% of trans, but given Kai doesn't have SH and his SP cooldowns won't outpace his SP gain...
  
  Fissure is the better skill as it offers fairly high damage and a temporary stun. Conviction sort of works as a quick personal invincibility button, but Kai doesn't need that when he has Dodge Grapple available.
  
  And the major difference is that 1.5k Att and 6 Bal > 750 Def since trans already boosts your Def and HP by significant amounts. If you ever die during trans, either your trans is low level or you got hit by an instant kill move. Or you have like no Def and well yeah, you might want to stim through 1st Stage to ensure you get into 2nd.
  
  The more precise explanation is that you only need to hit about 10k Def in order to make most damage negligable currently, which is doable for every character without trans. Pally ends up with you sitting at like 12k and only ever using 3k-4k of your 2nd Stage HP even if you tank every move with SH. Most new bosses have Def values from 8k-9.6k (and Hero can already break 10k Def). It's practically impossible to hit the Att cap on the majority of raids, so more Att will end up being more useful for DPS.
  
  The only way I can see Pally being better than DK is if there's a boss like Keaghen, with relatively low Def but high HP. In addition to that it's Att would have to hit the sweet spot where the ~2k Def gap between DK and Palladin actually makes a difference.
• MareneCorp wrote on 2012-10-18 23:31
  @Invertex I thought Dark Knights get no defense boost? Only Paladin, in exchange for attack?
• Oizen wrote on 2012-10-18 23:33

  Quote from MareneCorp;965515:

  @Invertex I thought Dark Knights get no defense boost? Only Paladin, in exchange for attack?

  
  
  Dark Knights still get a nice def boost, but mostly from the AGI you get from the stat skills.
  
  IMO, Dark Knights start out worse, but get better almost instantly after like... lv 6
• Invertex wrote on 2012-10-18 23:37
  Seems I was incorrect about the base stat boosts, I suppose my memory's a bit off.
  Regardless, I still place more value on how much Att you get as DK, as the mountain of HP you become with trans is really easy to play as.
• RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-19 00:07
  Are there any changes expected to be made to trans, or is it expected for DK to be better forevah?
• RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-10-19 09:46
  S2 has harder hitting bosses that may put the defense to use. DK is still a very safe and solid choice, though.
• RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-19 17:08

  Quote from RebeccaBlack;965812:

  S2 has harder hitting bosses that may put the defense to use. DK is still a very safe and solid choice, though.

  
  
  Ah, alright, I'm probably gonna go DK; the pally looks awkward with the random feathers n' stuff.
• Lesiru wrote on 2012-11-02 09:38
  Since it is obviously that Dark Knight is better for Kai, I must state that Kai has a special transformation for Paladin, ironically.