"Meditation causes the Durability of a Wand or a Staff to go down 1.75x faster"

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xianomi wrote on 2012-10-22 21:53

Well i just came across this topic and i wanted to give my input.

About a month ago i decided 1.75x dura loss is completely ludicrous and cannot possibly be correct. I did some googling and most people either never noticed a difference or blindly followed what the wiki said, while others stated that you can't always trust the wiki. I set out to test it for myself; and though I did not go nearly as far as NomadTrooper to document my testing, I can say it came out the same.

I actually used a single ice wand; but i tested it again with a different wand. Again, this was a while ago so i can't remember the exact numbers but it came up to around 170 bolts without meditation and 160 bolts with meditation. I honestly don't know why it was a bit off the second time, but it came out nearly identical with the second wand i used.

The point is, since then i've been using meditation non stop and have not noticed any particular spike in dura loss. As long as you preserve your wand and don't smack things around with it, it shouldn't be losing much dura in the first place. I wasn't too certain if what i came up with was correct but now that I see someone else has tested it I think it's safe to say that meditation does NOT negatively affect dura loss; at least not in any substantial way. Maybe it increases dura loss when you use melee or something. I frankly don't know xD
Kenero wrote on 2012-10-22 22:21

Quote from xianomi;967487:
Well i just came across this topic and i wanted to give my input.

About a month ago i decided 1.75x dura loss is completely ludicrous and cannot possibly be correct. I did some googling and most people either never noticed a difference or blindly followed what the wiki said, while others stated that you can't always trust the wiki. I set out to test it for myself; and though I did not go nearly as far as NomadTrooper to document my testing, I can say it came out the same.

I actually used a single ice wand; but i tested it again with a different wand. Again, this was a while ago so i can't remember the exact numbers but it came up to around 170 bolts without meditation and 160 bolts with meditation. I honestly don't know why it was a bit off the second time, but it came out nearly identical with the second wand i used.

The point is, since then i've been using meditation non stop and have not noticed any particular spike in dura loss. As long as you preserve your wand and don't smack things around with it, it shouldn't be losing much dura in the first place. I wasn't too certain if what i came up with was correct but now that I see someone else has tested it I think it's safe to say that meditation does NOT negatively affect dura loss; at least not in any substantial way. Maybe it increases dura loss when you use melee or something. I frankly don't know xD

I recommend buying completely new ice wands to test it out.

Not to be rude, but repairing isn't always at max.

Though I do agree I feel that it is a myth that meditation consume wand durability.
xianomi wrote on 2012-10-22 22:55

Quote from Kenero;967497:
I recommend buying completely new ice wands to test it out.

Not to be rude, but repairing isn't always at max.

Though I do agree I feel that it is a myth that meditation consume wand durability.

No I understand; I wasn't completely professional in my tests. But if meditation really did increase dura loss by as much as 75% i would have lost a point of dura after around 50 bolts as opposed to 160. NomadTrooper has already provided some evidence as to his testing so I feel it would be unnecessary to go back and test it myself, i'm just here to share what i found in case someone thinks it's a fluke or an isolated incident.

If anyone can prove that meditation DOES substantially increase dura loss then I would see reason to go into further testing on this.
Kenero wrote on 2012-10-22 23:50

Quote from xianomi;967511:
No I understand; I wasn't completely professional in my tests. But if meditation really did increase dura loss by as much as 75% i would have lost a point of dura after around 50 bolts as opposed to 160. NomadTrooper has already provided some evidence as to his testing so I feel it would be unnecessary to go back and test it myself, i'm just here to share what i found in case someone thinks it's a fluke or an isolated incident.

If anyone can prove that meditation DOES substantially increase dura loss then I would see reason to go into further testing on this.

Buy 2 new ice wands then test them out individually. Newly bought weapons are always 1000/1000 full... while repairing may be as bad as 200/1000 to 999/1000 of a point.

Also, be aware that critical consumes more durability (not sure on this one).
Justified wrote on 2012-10-23 06:35

If it's passive durability usage increase, decay from time is somewhere like .01 per 5 minutes, which is insignificant and can be less than attacking a mob once.

And if it's active durability usage, then the wiki is just completely wrong. Proof shouldn't fall to the nonbelievers in this case, since there's no real reason anywhere for anybody to believe it.
It's not like the widespread disbelief that wands contribute their weapon stats to magic, which was somewhat supported by the fact that Swords don't and the overlooked fact that they only contribute to the same element. That at least had some reasoning behind it, which is there was at least a small excuse to be wrong.

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