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RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-10-22 13:18
Don't care, already behind a foreign VPN that despises internet regulation but especially copyright trolls, at least whenever I'm doing anything relevant. Just search all corners of the internet and you'll find a few smaller groups with similar ideologies to whatever you're looking for, so long as you're not trying to hurt people or anything like that and just want others to stay out of your business.
If TA was still around, I'd say go to her for some recommendations. I don't remember the names of the ones she initially gave me. So if you can contact her somehow, then yeah.
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-22 14:28
This is still a free market, if they are willing to ask bullshit like that people will just take their business elsewhere, and if every company have this bullshit up, I will just make my own and take all of their customers.
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-10-22 15:11
^ except you forget a lot of areas of the U.S. only has ONE OR TWO OPTIONS for Internet Service providers
and it's the Major ISPs.
other areas use dial up
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-22 15:19
Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;967339:
^ except you forget a lot of areas of the U.S. only has ONE OR TWO OPTIONS for Internet Service providers
and it's the Major ISPs.
other areas use dial up
Well I guess then it'd be a good chance for companies that don't threaten their customers to move in and make some money. Also I am using dial up, not really that bad, I get 500kb/s during download and play online games just fine.
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-10-22 15:30
No, you don't understand
they hold huge monopolys where other ISPs won't be able to go in their area
it's some business voodoo
for example, Charter is the only ISP for Minnesota
and they charge like $80/month for internet
at their lowest
and charge lawsuits against other ISPs
http://www.muninetworks.org/content/charter-fights-dirty-kill-competition-monticello
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-22 15:45
And America dare to boast free market, what a bunch of hypocrites. The market isn't free, this bs makes chinese market look free. My father works in national electronic communication company, run by government, and they still have to compete with other company for contracts domestic or foreign.
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Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-10-24 14:12
Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;967344:
No, you don't understand
they hold huge monopolys where other ISPs won't be able to go in their area
it's some business voodoo
for example, Charter is the only ISP for Minnesota
and they charge like $80/month for internet at their lowest
and charge lawsuits against other ISPs
http://www.muninetworks.org/content/charter-fights-dirty-kill-competition-monticello
Whatever happened to all the anti-trust/monopoly laws that we are supposed to have in place in this country?
Do those mean nothing these days?
Usually I'm pro free market but it's cases like these that I'm more pro government and think the government needs to step in and protect consumer rights and not allow that kind of bullshit price gouging.
I love how internet is here in New York State. There's three major ISP's that are essentially competing (Verizon, Time Warner, Frontier). If you drop service for say Time Warner, they'll beg you to come back by giving you a special low price deal and keep asking why you left and what they can do to bring you back which is great!
That's how it should be.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 10:20
Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;967057:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/tech/web/copyright-alert-system/index.html?ctp=1
American justice system: pay "a fine" to have your case "reviewed"
An excellent application of the presumption of innocence indeed.
Quote from Kingofrunes;968319:
Usually I'm pro free market but it's cases like these that I'm more pro government and think the government needs to step in and protect consumer rights and not allow that kind of bullshit price gouging.
There's really no paradoxon here. Favouring a properly functioning free market means favouring an environment where no one competitor gains an
unfair advantage, or domination of the market landscape, because those factors
will artificially hamper market dynamics to the point of breaking them. Only in a black and white world do government intervention and freedom categorically contradict each other.
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paladin wrote on 2012-10-25 10:38
Quote from Kingofrunes;968319:
Whatever happened to all the anti-trust/monopoly laws that we are supposed to have in place in this country?
Do those mean nothing these days?
Usually I'm pro free market but it's cases like these that I'm more pro government and think the government needs to step in and protect consumer rights and not allow that kind of bullshit price gouging.
I love how internet is here in New York State. There's three major ISP's that are essentially competing (Verizon, Time Warner, Frontier). If you drop service for say Time Warner, they'll beg you to come back by giving you a special low price deal and keep asking why you left and what they can do to bring you back which is great!
That's how it should be.
there is but theres no incentive for newbies to enter certian markets
Places like NYC where wires and people are there is competion
but go into places like the middle us your lucky to even get broadband in some places
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Froglord wrote on 2012-10-30 04:24
Better start downloading photoshop cs6 before this happens.