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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 17:07
Quote from Sumpfkraut;969247:
The strangest aspect is the assumption that the opinions of people of a multinational 1.3 billion state do not vary wildly by region, educational background, economical situation, or culture.
My brain somehow failed me while I was writing. I initially wanted to say that about his family, but then mods might get angry at me for insulting. So I changed it, not realizing how discontinuous it would be... :fail3:
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-25 17:33
Quote from RealityBreak;969233:
I was unaware that the Chinese were such ignorant haters. There was very little intervention in Libya, and that was only to support their people against a dictator, and Romney and Obama are not representative of the American people.
Chinese people just think foreign country's politic is non of US or French business, and if they are not really after something such as better oil deal they should try helping out countries in Africa and maybe prevent something like the Rwanda genocide.
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Reptile wrote on 2012-10-25 17:35
We throw money at China, most of our imported goods come from there.
Like what the fuck man?
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 17:45
We throw money at the EU too (more than anyone else in fact, a whole fifth of the EU budget) but still the (stupid parts of the) Greek hate us. :( Also France and Germany conspire to rule Europe with an iron fist, obviously. It's all about populist politics and a lack of political education in the population.
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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-10-25 18:02
Quote from Sumpfkraut;969273:
We throw money at the EU too (more than anyone else in fact, a whole fifth of the EU budget) but still the (stupid parts of the) Greek hate us. :( Also France and Germany conspire to rule Europe with an iron fist, obviously. It's all about populist politics and a lack of political education in the population.
Poor Germany. Should've just kicked Greece out of the EU; their lazy government is worthless.
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-25 18:42
Quote from Reptile;969268:
We throw money at China, most of our imported goods come from there.
Like what the fuck man?
When did US throw money at China other than to buy stuff (which is hardly good will consider it's free market competition), on the other hand US is flooding chinese treasury with US bonds and dollar which they print like paper, but because Chinese and US economy is so tied together china must keep buying those or US economy will fall and so will chinese economy.
If you want to talk good will, during last visit to US, chinese chairman donated money to US for some stuff I forgot, like a billion or something, that's throw money at US, yet now US is urging Japan to buy their weapon so Japan can have a war with China regarding DiaoYu Island. Hanna, your government is consist of jerks.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 19:03
Quote from RealityBreak;969287:
Poor Germany. Should've just kicked Greece out of the EU; their lazy government is worthless.
No no, I think it should stay with us. A proper default and far reaching reforms are necessary though. Tax evasion, corruption, incredible bureaucratic waste and unnecessarily state-run expensive properties are not the way it can work.
I don't even comprehend how people think it could cause the disintegration of the Euro and thus the whole idea of European union itself. Absolutely paranoid.
There are a few more problems though that don't exactly help Greece in its current situation (
it can't adjust its exchange rate for example, this is what spelt doom for e.g. Chile before), and to be fair Germany swamping the European markets with its exported goods like China does to the US doesn't help either.
It's a joint-fault and has to be a joint-effort to correct.
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Reptile wrote on 2012-10-25 19:48
Quote from TLCBonaparte;969310:
When did US throw money at China other than to buy stuff (which is hardly good will consider it's free market competition), on the other hand US is flooding chinese treasury with US bonds and dollar which they print like paper, but because Chinese and US economy is so tied together china must keep buying those or US economy will fall and so will chinese economy.
If you want to talk good will, during last visit to US, chinese chairman donated money to US for some stuff I forgot, like a billion or something, that's throw money at US, yet now US is urging Japan to buy their weapon so Japan can have a war with China regarding DiaoYu Island. Hanna, your government is consist of jerks.
We help provide jobs for the Chinese, if we decided to stop buying from China it'd have a large impact, don't you think?
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-10-25 20:06
Chinese yuan isn't effective
because of the recent shit going on in East Asia with Japan
Also, Mr. Romney invest in jobs to go to China
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-25 21:00
Quote from Reptile;969342:
We help provide jobs for the Chinese, if we decided to stop buying from China it'd have a large impact, don't you think?
True, but US buy from China not because they are nice to China, they buy from China because chinese products are cheaper, so really china don't owe US anything in that aspect. Besides if US decide to be financially independent from China they need to do a LOT more than just not buying from China, they will have to stop printing so much money, without China taking the newly print dollar off US, dollar value would've dropped to oblivion by now.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 21:27
I'm just wondering, but why isn't his hate concentrating on Great Britain? After all it was the British Empire that ruined China with the Opium Wars, not the US. And don't forget the Germans' bloody intervention during the Boxer revolts, and how they were allied with Japan. Not sure if the US did anything in China except once in a while criticise it for human rights violations, and now being its major trading partner.
Oh, and they defeated the Imperial Japanese invaders, saving the Chinese a lot of trouble I think.
I don't really get it.
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-25 21:40
Quote from Sumpfkraut;969416:
I'm just wondering, but why isn't his hate concentrating on Great Britain? After all it was the British Empire that ruined China with the Opium Wars, not the US. And don't forget the Germans' bloody intervention during the Boxer revolts, and how they were allied with Japan. Not sure if the US did anything in China except once in a while criticise it for human rights violations, and now being its major trading partner.
Oh, and they defeated the Imperial Japanese invaders, saving the Chinese a lot of trouble I think.
I don't really get it.
Simple, Britain may be assholes during the opium war, but they are not trying to screw with China now, at least not like US. US is setting missile defense for Japan, selling them weapons, stirring up things in Tibet, selling weapon to Taiwan and insulting the administration. They been fking with every country not allied with them for a decade too, not just China, they still haven't found wmd in Iraq, they killed another country's leader willy nilly and keep butting into other countries' domestic affairs. If England is doing that, you bet I'd be angry with them too.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-10-25 21:41
Can't read without it being quoted.
Hmmm, but looking it up I can at least see that the US was also involved in the Boxer revolts, and quite a few more European powers besides Germany. I really have too much half-knowledge regarding China and its surroundings.
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Oizen wrote on 2012-10-25 23:07
Quote from TLCBonaparte;968847:
Are you kidding? My entire middle school and junior high experience was like "I wish that Bin Laden guy would just bomb the white house already".
Last year when I went back to china my family was like "US and French are jerks, what did Lybia ever do to them?"
This year it's "Romney and Obama are all bad mouthing China, blaming china for everything, geez can't they elect someone who won't blame China for their own problem?"
In fact until I came to Canada I didn't know I can't talk about Bin Laden bombing US wish openly (Which is weird because north american is suppose to have completely freedom of speech)
Why wouldn't China love us?
They make a fortune off us.
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-10-26 00:21
Quote from OizenX;969495:
Why wouldn't China love us?
They make a fortune off us.
All they need to do is recall their troop all over the globe, right now it's like US didn't even invade ppl yet they act like they did and dictate everything each country do.