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bellcourt wrote on 2012-11-13 21:51
....do you like them?
I do sometimes, if it makes the story intense and memorable. I still cry buckets, but in the end I say "what an awesome story".
I read a unconventional love story recently (no, not Romeo & Juliet), the hero was an uncaring cold-blooded ass at first but in the end the prediction of the heroine got true and he did one heroic deed. Thus he died. I really liked the character development a lot.
It does not have to be romance, any genre counts.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-11-13 21:56
I am strangely drawn to tragedies.
Vilsmaier's Stalingrad is a favourite here.
[video=youtube;GaBc37SgiUE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaBc37SgiUE[/video]
Pelle Erobreren's farewell scene is very touching too, though not strictly an ending, it's just that the trilogy wasn't continued.
[video=youtube;qbPXQsfBfa4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbPXQsfBfa4[/video]
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Rin wrote on 2012-11-14 00:15
A good story is a good story, so... the ending depends on that.
That being said, one of the best tragedies I've read is
Of Mice & Men. A tragedy that crushes the audience's hopes, but with understandable reasons tends to hit the hardest.
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Kueh wrote on 2012-11-14 00:33
I think the ending should be judged by more than just whether it's tragic or not.
A good ending is good because it's a good ending.
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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-11-14 00:37
Quote from Sumpfkraut;980657:
I am strangely drawn to tragedies.
[SPOILER="Spoiler"]Vilsmaier's Stalingrad is a favourite here.
[video=youtube;GaBc37SgiUE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaBc37SgiUE[/video]
Pelle Erobreren's farewell scene is very touching too, though not strictly an ending, it's just that the trilogy wasn't continued.
[video=youtube;qbPXQsfBfa4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbPXQsfBfa4[/video][/SPOILER]
It's not strange at all; they say that you rarely appreciate something's value until it's gone.
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Sekwaf wrote on 2012-11-14 01:15
It depends. I can't stand stories that have unrealistically good endings to prove some moral, nor to I like tragedies just for the sake of it, they tend to get... melodramatic. A good ending is one that ties up any loose ends that need to be and that makes the story memorable.
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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-11-14 11:11
Let them. All die. For a truly delicious ending! :tea:
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Ceui wrote on 2012-11-14 14:56
I don't usually let my emotion slip, but when I do, it's only when I'm watching anime or reading manga.
Most of the times it happens when one of my favorite characters or their loved ones dies of a tragic event.
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Murasaki wrote on 2012-11-14 16:50
I'm good with tragic endings as long as they are well written. The same goes for happy endings.
Let's take the original Fullmetal Alchemist anime and the new one, which is closer to the Manga. I hadn't read the manga before watching either of these, but I definitely prefer the newer, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood. The ending of Brotherhood just felt way more conclusive and satisfying, and the characters definitely grew more overall.
Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica is another one with a well thought out ending. It fits the characters and their personalities and backstories.
Really, it all depends. I will say that I do lean a bit more towards the happy endings mainly because there are some sad endings that just left me feeling like my soul got sucked out from my body, and I end up feeling drained for a while.
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Cucurbita wrote on 2012-11-14 17:18
Saikano: The Last Love Song on This Little Planet is my absolute favorite in this genre.
Its a romantic tragedy that leads to the destruction of the world. It explores so much of humanity. Unfortunately the anime was scaled wayyy the fuck down for the sake of being viewer appropriate. They omitted a lot of the details and changed the ending to be much less melancholic.
I strongly suggest giving it a read for anyone who really likes this kind of stuff. Its got everything from sci-fi, war, romance, psychology, sociology, etc etc.
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TLCBonaparte wrote on 2012-11-15 16:13
Don't like tragic endings. I can't even stand reading the tragic stories on newspaper (like one guy who is so poor, he had to put his 70 years old mother up on attic because it is the coolest place in his hovel during summer, everyday he has to go to market and pick those bad part of vegetable people threw away and bring those home to cook them... I am tearing up.
I read to get away from those things. I wish I can do something to help the people suffering in the world, and fictional tragic kind of spit on real life tragic. People crying over non-existent tragic when real tragics are happening all around the world.
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Ninjam wrote on 2012-11-19 07:32
Bridge to Terabithia(pretty sure i misspelled it)
Read it by chance in middle school (6th grade ish) and was depressed for about a week afterward. It was a great book, but the ending was just so sad.
Quote from TLCBonaparte;981611:
I read to get away from those things. I wish I can do something to help the people suffering in the world, and fictional tragic kind of spit on real life tragic. People crying over non-existent tragic when real tragics are happening all around the world.
Fictional tragedy can often make people notice real tragedy even more. Take a real tragedy, write a really good book on it and more people will notice than a small newspaper article.
I usually avoid fictional tragedy too, but I have a hatred of spoilers and often the tragic twist is at the end. Funny thing is, the few times a real tragedy happens in a book, it is almost always used well and makes the book memorable, if very sad.
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-11-20 17:54
Tragedy classically fulfilled a reminding function anyway, with all that hubris stuff.
Even now, most real tragedies serve a similar purpose, even if it may not be moralising. Fictional tragedy is not unemphatic, it wouldn't be considered tragedy then. There is no persiflage on real suffering here, it is an emphatic approach to real suffering.
Belittling real tragedies goes like this joke:
My grandfather died in a KZ.
He fell from a guard tower.
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Tarvos wrote on 2012-11-21 21:57
I love tragic endings. I feel loss adds to a story in more ways than a happy ending does 99% of the time for me. Victory comes at a price most of the time, like the death of a character.
Or even if the protagonists don't succeed in their goals, it's a reminder that in life you aren't always going to get your way, even if you're "right". Cruelty and sadness make a story more easy to relate to, especially those who have experienced it. But we've all experienced sadness and cruelty in some form no matter how small, it just depends on the person watching to turn away or look ahead.