Upgrading from 8GB to 16GB RAM

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BizarreJuju wrote on 2012-11-20 20:34

So for a year now I've been using my Kingston 8GX HyperX Desktop Memory Kit - 8gb(2 x 4GB),DDR3-1600MHz

My ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA-1155 Board can take on upto 32GB.

I want to know if there isn't any problem to add/replace my current memory to 16GB or 32GB? and any other benefit from increasing my memory.

Just a little something to shop for this Black Friday

Build:
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CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost)

MOBO: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA-1155 (Intel Z68 bridge-set)

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 PRO 64-bit

VideoCard: ASUS GeForce GTX570

RAM: Kingston 8GX HyperX Desktop Memory Kit - 8GB(2 x 4GB),DDR3-1600MHz

HDD: Seagate Barracuda XT Hard Drive - 2TB, 7200 RPM

SSD: Intel 320 Series 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (Can get a bigger size for cheaper now)

PowerSupply: Thermaltake 600watt

Heatsink/Cooling: CoolMaster Hyper 212 Plus

Case: NZXT PHAN-002GR

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Lewd wrote on 2012-11-20 20:35

No problem, you just wont notice a difference
Excalibur wrote on 2012-11-20 20:43

Those speakers... Look so out of place.
RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-11-20 21:09

Quote from teneshi;984389:
No problem, you just wont notice a difference

This.

Unless you have a specific purpose for having more than 8GB (read: virtual machines, certain professional programs, RAMdisk), you'd just be wasting money from something that will do nothing. The GB is just capacity. If you want speed, look for how fast it runs instead (latency, frequency), and even then the effects of it will be minimal for many things such as gaming to the point where it's rarely worth the money.

You could survive on 4GB, but 8GB will allow you to have millions of tabs open, a memory hogging 4GB game in the background, a virus scan, and everything else you can think of that would kill your other computer parts before they could get to the RAM. It's so inexpensive now that it's pretty much a non-issue and the .01% of the population that might need more can get all they'll need for $50-100 extra.
Osayidan wrote on 2012-11-20 23:33

If you multitask like crazy, it'll also benefit you.
When you have tons of crap open it all still uses memory, but CPU and graphics processing is mainly focused on the active processes. Your idle instance of photoshop with a 1200 DPI image the size of a tennis court will use up a bunch of RAM, but if you're not working on it your CPU won't even feel it.

So despite what people say about it not doing anything, knowing that you do a lot do digital art stuff, if you do multi-tasking, go for it.
If you need speed though listen to what RebeccaBlack said.
Mentosftw wrote on 2012-11-20 23:42

The way I see things, I'd use the money instead to replace that god awful blue surface you used to display your parts.
RebeccaBlack wrote on 2012-11-21 11:44

Quote from Osayidan;984463:
If you multitask like crazy, it'll also benefit you.
When you have tons of crap open it all still uses memory, but CPU and graphics processing is mainly focused on the active processes. Your idle instance of photoshop with a 1200 DPI image the size of a tennis court will use up a bunch of RAM, but if you're not working on it your CPU won't even feel it.

So despite what people say about it not doing anything, knowing that you do a lot do digital art stuff, if you do multi-tasking, go for it.
If you need speed though listen to what RebeccaBlack said.

Photoshop is what I meant by professional programs. Stuff like that, video editing, any sort of 3D Graphic work, etc. Without those kinda things... it'd be hard to push a computer over 8GB with just multitasking, imo. Even really heavy stuff.

Quote from Mentosftw;984465:
The way I see things, I'd use the money instead to replace that god awful blue surface you used to display your parts.

lol
Taycat wrote on 2012-11-21 16:08

What in the world are you doing that will require 16gb, I wonder?
I use 8gb and I don't even use it all myself.
Mystickskye wrote on 2012-11-22 06:25

I regularly break 10GB through multitasking myself. If you're not saturating that/paging there's no point in getting more. Faster RAM with intel chips tends to have little effect too. The increase in performance of 1600MHz RAM over 1300MHz is tiny and the difference just gets smaller between steps from there.

What brought this on?
yumri wrote on 2012-12-10 01:37

if you are getting 16GB of RAM since Mabi barely ever comes up to over 512MB at max in tara with the entire screen filled with players the only way to get a performance improvement is to make a RAMdisk and have the files needed for mabi to run copied from the hard drive to the RAMdisk before you start playing. How this will give you more performance even over having it on a SSD is having everything in RAM already prevents the need for a SATA or a PCIe call in the hardware in which takes CPU cycles and more time to do. really then go with 1866MHz as anything faster and you wont even see a difference b/c as i said mabi uses 512MB of physical RAM and barely any paging. So turn off the paging file size you will have 16GB and paging will only slow you down even if pageing on a SSD.
It also was only made to be dual core so having a dual core processor with Hyperthreading you will go faster with hyperthreading turned off and a quad core at the same speed with the same amount of L2 and L3 cache will go slower then a dual core. As said before Intel chips seem to run a little bit faster than AMD chips with mabi not very sure why so if you can have a Intel CPU of Sandy or Ivy with Ivy being the better one go with that as Ivy bridge is slightly faster but not noticeably so compared to Sandy bridge equivalents.
A CPU at around 2GHz or higher will be good and noticeable but anything above 2GHz you wont really be able to tell unless you are mutli tasking 5 or more programs while playing mabi other wise above 2GHz is not noticeable.
Last thing Mabi does not use the GPU nor Graphics RAM like at all so a nice Graphics card for a computer playing mabi is a waste of cash which could have went into a higher grade system board and/or better system RAM as mabi will play excellent off of CPU integrated graphics. Even though mabi doesn't use alot of RAM faster RAM is better then more RAM upto 1866MHz is seeable in local latency.
A 100Mbps to a 1000Mbps network is not a seeable difference either its like a few nanosecounds at most but offloading the network stack to a unmodified network sever gigabit card or faster will help as you are taking the load off of the system CPU freeing it up to run mabi faster.
Cable networking is suggested over any and all 802.11 standards as i have seen to many times of when the signal of my friends was just dropped or overloaded by someone else taking more then their fair share of the 100Mbps max in the wireless N standard. You are sharing it with everyone else using it though with a cable you have a line of either 10Mbps, 100Mbps, or 1000Mbps depending on the network card and switch/router.
Faster internet speeds over 1 Mbps do not seem to help anyone with anything noticeable even though if you are on it with another person playing as well you might but not likely that you will as it will only affect those things which are time sensitive when the sever isn't lagging.
Getting a newer home router or a medium business router might help if your router is old and you want faster WiFi otherwise replacing it before it is broken buys you nothing. The only case in which it does is if you go with the medium business router and you usually can get it to support up to around 500,000 users which is excessive but the part of it which will help is you will be able to assign your computer onto a port on a separate network than everyone else giving you the advantage of bypassing network traffic the last part of a medium business router which will help is to build your routing table and make it so it doeskin update, add nor subtract automatically while using the best routing protocol you can while having everyone still on the network.

I think that is it for all the ways to get higher performance as the rest would have to be on nexon's side and we cant affect what nexon does.