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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2012-11-21 17:54
Children will continue to be barred from the Jacksonville worship services sex-offender Darrell Gilyard has been leading Sunday mornings since the end of January.
That was determined in court Friday when Gilyard’s attorney withdrew a motion seeking a change in the preacher’s probation status to allow minors in the sanctuary when Gilyard preaches.
The withdrawal came during a hearing in which Circuit Judge Kevin Blazs declared the motion “premature†because a licensed therapist has yet to determine if the request is appropriate. Until then, the court is unable to make an informed decision, Blazs said from the bench.
The judge’s remarks followed a sidebar conversation with attorneys that lasted more than 10 minutes.
Gilyard attorney Richard Kuritz said his client’s preaching complies with his three-year probation, which bars him from having unsupervised contact with minors.
But another law requires a therapist to determine if “supervised contact†is appropriate and, if so, under what conditions. It’s that latter statute that must be fulfilled before the motion will be filed again, Kuritz said.
Gilyard also must be enrolled or have completed a sex offender therapy program in order to be granted supervised contact with minors, Eliot Park, circuit administrator for the Florida Department of Corrections, said in an emailed statement.
Gilyard said he is currently enrolled in such a program.
He and Christ Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church leaders gathered in the hallway at the Duval County Courthouse after the hearing. They agreed Gilyard will continue to preach and that minors will be prohibited from being anywhere on church grounds until a court rules on the matter. Before, children attended a youth church service in another room while Gilyard preached.
The state Department of Corrections has confirmed that Gilyard is in compliance with the rules of his probationas long as minors are not present when he’s in the pulpit. Gilyard also is refraining from performing any pastoral duties, such as counseling.
The pastor and the church leaders who hired him are arguing that minors should be allowed in the sanctuary while he is preaching because they would be accompanied by parents and other adults.
Gilyard said the motion was filed because the North Davis Street church is concerned barring minors could impede its growth and because he refuses to live in the shadows of his offender status.
“Somehow I will prove that life isn’t over when one has committed a crime for which he receives this heinous label,†Gilyard said in a text message Friday afternoon. “You don’t have to languish on the fringes of society.â€
Gilyard, 49, was released from state prison Dec. 28 after serving three years for committing sex crimes against two teenage church members at Shiloh Metropolitan Baptist Church in Jacksonville, where he was the pastor at the time. After his 2009 conviction and imprisonment, he admitted to fathering a child with a woman who accused him of raping her during a 2004 counseling session.
So far, Gilyard’s status as a registered sex offender isn’t keeping people away, church leaders said. With an average attendance of around 10 before Gilyard came to preach, numbers have shot up to 150 and 200 since his first sermon on Jan. 29, they said.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-02-10/story/duval-court-hearing-no-kids-now-church-where-sex-offender-preaches#.UKImoEOMXwo.reddit
dunno whether to be happy that children would be less brainwashed or disappointed that the church favors him over children
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Blassreiter wrote on 2012-11-21 19:23
There's a trend here...
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-11-21 23:12
People with their fear of physical proximity. Like it magically tears their asses or something? Just let him do the sermons with the kids attending it, nothing's gonna come of it. Paranoid silly people.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-11-21 23:20
If he's done it more than once, he'll do it again. His urge will never go away unless you take it away. It's disgusting that the only way for them to take action again will be once another child is violated.
It's funny how many church people are pro-life yet they don't seem to really give a shit about children at all. They value the life of a disgusting, vile pseudo-saint over the lives of innocent children.
He should be locked in a cell where he belongs. People like him never stop unless they are stopped.
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BizarreJuju wrote on 2012-11-21 23:20
Give every children pocket knives, in case someone decide to touch them~
Seriously Churches these days o3o
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Sumpfkraut wrote on 2012-11-21 23:22
Quote from Cynic;985017:
If he's done it more than once, he'll do it again.
Uhm, you know, it's kinda like, called opportunity?
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Maenad wrote on 2012-11-21 23:35
Is... Is this real?
It can't be real.
My head is about to explode.
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Blassreiter wrote on 2012-11-22 03:19
Quote from Cynic;985017:
It's funny how many church people are pro-life yet they don't seem to really give a shit about children at all. They value the life of a disgusting, vile pseudo-saint over the lives of innocent children.
[S]Because they don't care about the intrinsic life of the children but instead their future ability to generate wealth and give donations and/or taxes.
Welcome to Life, where most people protect/save lives in order to leech their money.[/S]
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Synfonia wrote on 2012-11-23 01:26
Why would people even want a pastor who molests children? That is not a man I would want to learn about morals and righteousness from.
It's like they're blaming the children for being molested, not the priest for molesting them. Any sensible community would have kicked the guy out for doing something like that to children.
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Kollin wrote on 2012-11-23 01:40
Quote from Synfonia;985646:
Why would people even want a pastor who molests children? That is not a man I would want to learn about morals and righteousness from.
It's like they're blaming the children for being molested, not the priest for molesting them. Any sensible community would have kicked the guy out for doing something like that to children.
We are talking about religious people here. Most don't have a damn bit of sense.
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paladin wrote on 2012-11-23 22:55
As long as its other adults at best the parents fine
Alone? sorry not worth the risk
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Reptile wrote on 2012-11-24 01:33
Quote from Kollin;985649:
We are talking about religious people here. Most don't have a damn bit of sense.
>most
bad assumption is bad
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Lolicon wrote on 2012-11-24 02:29
Quote from Reptile;986039:
>most
bad assumption is bad
The correct word phrase is "a lot"
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Kendoza wrote on 2012-11-24 03:08
Quote from Lolicon;986057:
The correct word phrase is "a lot"
Another word phrase could be "too many".
And this news thread actually made me abit ill.
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Evaris wrote on 2012-11-29 18:46
Nothing bud this can express my feelings to this.
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