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Well, most of PSO2 is solo and/or small group play. Judging from what Herro said, the later content might involve multiple parties to fight one boss sounds rather troublesome for older computers.

Early on money can take a while to get (especially once you get your mag which eats EVERYTHING) but you don't really need that much because you're always going to be saving up to buy that one weapon that'll last you a while. Armor and upgrading isn't essential or needed till late game either.

The game is pretty easy and the grind can lead to quite repiticious gameplay. Don't let that deter you though, I had a blast during the time I did play pso2. I just stopped because of school, work and other personal things I found more important in my life. I'll probably check out the NA version (I suspect the community won't be that great however.. The Japanese players were pretty damn hospitable and most of them didn't care about the language barrier and actually liked having a foreigner play with them.)

Quote from Nithiel;987265:
Pretty much everything. I hate WoW. Like the fact that you need to work for a week to get 5 gold. Woo! Only 5000 more and you might be able to buy something! and the giant 50+ person fights. I prefer solo play or playing with 2-3 people max.

You will be able to solo but it will be easier with a group. People can heal but it's not required, there is no "healer" class. You won't be standing in one spot spamming skills on a boss, you will have to dodge the boss's attacks and attack its weak spots. Aggro works similarly to Monster Hunter I think. I think the only things it has in common with WoW is it has a pointy eared race and it's a MMORPG.

Can't wait till it hits the US shores though I'm wondering what happened to the Vita version they supposedly announced.

Quote from Nithiel;987265:
Pretty much everything. I hate WoW. Like the fact that you need to work for a week to get 5 gold. Woo! Only 5000 more and you might be able to buy something! and the giant 50+ person fights. I prefer solo play or playing with 2-3 people max.

Oh and not to mention that while it's wasd controlled just like wow, mouse movement controls your mouse with right and left mouse clicks being your attacks.

Number keys will be your hotkeys for certain support skills and items while the function keys (F1 F2 etc) will act as hotkeys for controlling the menu interface.

The classes also have different control schemes. Rangers and Forces are preferred to be played with keyboard and mouse (since there is an over the shoulder view for precision attacks) while Hunters can be played pretty well with controllers since it's just like a third person action game with that class.

You can change classes on the fly on the same character (through npc of course, free of charge) with your old class keeping it's old levels and stats. There's also subclassing later on where you can combine two classes with some limiting options.

Free players are restricted to not being able to sell or trade things to other players and they cannot customize their little apartment room. However, free players can still buy items from player shops including gacha items. One of the only items that a free player can usually never get are hairstyles and different Cast head types. Other than that, gear is all ingame with the exception of some spiffy looking gacha weapons which hold no advantages over ingame weapons. Sega has made it very clear that they do not want to make a pay to win game.

Quote from Kayate;987281:
Can't wait till it hits the US shores though I'm wondering what happened to the Vita version they supposedly announced.

that goes into closed beta in jan for jp version.

Quote from Mentosftw;987290:
One of the only items that a free player can usually never get are hairstyles and different cast head types.

You can still buy the ticket for the hairstyles from player shops. Same with voice tickets and whatnot. The only untradables are things that are brought directly from the cash shop (resets, service, ect).

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Quote from Nithiel;987265:
Like the fact that you need to work for a week to get 5 gold.
Woo! Only 5000 more and you might be able to buy something!
and the giant 50+ person fights.
I prefer solo play or playing with 2-3 people max.

Nowdays, a new character can get 5 gold in a couple of days. A 40+ character doesn't even need a couple of days, assuming that you play more than 1 hour every day.
That's endgame, and gold is much easier to get now.
50+ person fights? Battlegrounds don't even go past 40, and most raids are available in 5-man, 10-man, 15-man, and/or 25-man. Dungeons are 5-man, and there's a dungeon finder for getting PUGs easily.

Quote from Elleanior;987625:

PSO2 NA was announced a while ago, along with that apparent fiasco of an IP ban for NA players. I haven't tried playing since the supposed IP ban, so I don't know if it's true.

No IP ban. Just the ToS was changed to be what exactly it was in PSU JP and PSO:BB JP, which never did ip ban from start to finish. We were warned after that hacking incident that if too many NA players (see: a vast majority) starts hacking, we would get smacked with one.

Also is this relevant enough to start posting pics?

My only reservation against this game is that it's so RNG based if you want to get good equipment. It's easy enough to scrape by even if you have no luck/money, but it's a huge pain otherwise.

First off in order to get a good weapon, you have to find a "rare" one. Finding a rare that your class can use specifically is hard (or a rare you specifically want), so chances are you'll get a bunch of rares you can't use along the way.

That's the first big issue. They nerfed NPC prices to be 70-800 Meseta, and drops are in 1-30 incriments except from some things that can give up to 350. The average going price for a decent weapon? 200k. A top range rare? 1m-3m. That's unupgraded. You need to have a paid "MyShop" in order to sell items to other players. So enjoy paying 7 dollars or so a month to be able to sell everything of value that you can't use. Otherwise there is a way to make about 600k a day, but that requires you to find 3 other people at a decent gear level and coordination (and upwards of 2-3 hours). If you plan on going mostly solo, be prepared to have like no way to make money.

To compound that, the best weapons are currenlty 10* ones. These are untradeable. So if you really want to have the best of the best, you can't even farm money as an alternative.

Oh, and some of these rare weapons only drop from rare enemies. Rare bosses specifically for some of the good ones. These have about a 1/14 chance of spawning. So you're going to be hunting for rare drops from rare enemies. Yeah.

Secondly each weapon has an elemental attribute. This can account for like 25% boost in damage. If your rare weapon has no element, there is no way as of now to add elements to that weapon. So in addition to getting a good weapon, you need a good weapon with an elemental on it. In order to power up a weapon with weak elemental damage? Throw more weapons of the same type at it.

Additionally you have to upgrade a weapon, through what's known as grinding. This can upgrade a weapon to +10 at most, and can almost double the weapon's attack. In addition to being a RNG, the rarer weapons are harder to grind and take more Grinders per attempt. A 9* rarity weapon takes 3 Grinders per attempt.

The JP server economy has Grinders at 27k per. Plus a weapon grind fee. Enjoy spending 100k per RNG attempt. Farming them yourself is a fairly slow process as well. Some people have used upwards of 500 grinders on a 10*, and haven't even gotten +10 yet. So unless you're lucky, it's going to be a total hell to get that rare weapon of yours to maximum upgrade.

There's also an update adding "special abilities" to weapons. In order to activate them, you have to +10 grind a weapon and then revert it to +0 to get an ability. And these abilities will have multiple levels. This still isn't in JP yet, so can't comment more than that.

There's a more bareable ability affixing upgrade as well, which you can transfer abilities to get additional stats onto the weapon seperate from everything else. The more abilities you try to have, the harder it is to succeed. Most people use 2 or 3, which costs 400k-1m on average. If you want 4, that price skyrockets to like 5m+.

So my main complaint is that it's so RNG based to get good equipment. If you're obsessive about trying to get "endgame" gear (like myself), you'll probably hate yourself for playing the game.

But if you're fine with doing like half the potential damage you'd get, which is still more than enough to get by, you should be fine. It's very enjoyable other than the obnoxious randomness. Even the economy isn't too screwed up aside from Grinders, the "gacha" costumes? Only 5m for the most expensive, most average from 1m to 3m, with some as low as 200k.

That's all the JP economy though, no idea how NA's going to end up on that side.

Oh one other thing I've noticed during my short stay there.

The new outfits are insanely cheap the first week (like 5k) or so that they're out since everyone's trying to get the rarer gacha stuff and they end up getting those instead and they mass sell them. One week later, you'll be hard pressed to find a single one and if they get sold, they're in the upwards of 50k meseta. The super rare stuff like wedding dresses and chicken suits go over several million meseta x.x

Especially if you play as a cast, buy all the parts you can or you'll probably regret it later. xD

Quote from Invertex;988010:
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I agree with pretty much everything Invertex said but I'd like to point out that there is a way for free member to open a shop. But it requires luck. You can get 3days myshop coupon from the FUN scratch card.

On the other side there's not much to PSO other than grinding for gear once you complete the story. It's like monster hunter in a way that you always want to get better gear. Removing that RNG part would make the game less fun in my opinion. I do agree that they should tweak it a little though.

Quote from Kanam;988026:
I agree with pretty much everything Invertex said but I'd like to point out that there is a way for free member to open a shop. But it requires luck. You can get 3days myshop coupon from the FUN scratch card.

On the other side there's not much to PSO other than grinding for gear once you complete the story. It's like monster hunter in a way that you always want to get better gear. Removing that RNG part would make the game less fun in my opinion. I do agree that they should tweak it a little though.

Right, I forgot to mention the 'free' scratches. I haven't gotten a 3 day pass so far though.

But yeah, there isn't much else to do besides upgrade gear once you level to 50 on both your main class and subclass. That's already about 12m EXP total, but it's not impossible to get there after the EXP adjustments. I don't mind randomness, but the RNG in this game is just super annoying after a while. The upgrade guy is like Ferghus, but worse.

Quote from Invertex;988032:
Right, I forgot to mention the 'free' scratches. I haven't gotten a 3 day pass so far though.

But yeah, there isn't much else to do besides upgrade gear once you level to 50 on both your main class and subclass. That's already about 12m EXP total, but it's not impossible to get there after the EXP adjustments. I don't mind randomness, but the RNG in this game is just super annoying after a while. The upgrade guy is like Ferghus, but worse.

On the bright side, as far as I know, equipment cannot break when you fail a grind. But yeah he is like Ferghus but worse on rare weapon. Non rare weapon are a breeze to upgrade though and can provide a decent alternative if you get the strongest non-rare with abilities like the one that boost your stat by 10 x Ability level.

And I'll confirm that you can indeed get 'free' myshop for 3 days from 'free' scratch. It's just really rare (I got one out of every scratch I did).

Yeah, I've known they're possible to get. Just really slips from my mind since it's hardly a reliable way to make money. Technically the non-paying way to do it is spam those scratches until you get a free 3 day shop, and save it for when you've hoarded a ton of rares to sell. But chances are an update will come and your rares will devalue massively if you wait too long.

Like the ãƒ†ã‚£ã‚°ãƒªãƒ‰ãƒ« dropped from a couple hundred thousand to about 10k due to better rifles getting released.

And equipment can't break. But you can lose up to 3 grind levels on failure later on, I lose 2 a lot of times. So you'll constantly be pinging up and down and it'll annoy the hell out of you. You can get grind protectors, but they're either expensive or only reduce the failure cost by 1.

I will stress the fact that you don't need rares to get by. Using 6* Uncommons will do the job at a very low price. Just you'll be about 200-400 attack down, with the people with better weapons having upwards of 1.8k Att while you'll have about 1.4k to 1.5k.

Ah sorry I didn't mean to make it seems like I was correcting you on the 3 days coupon. I was just giving confirmation in case people wondered if they truely existed. But you're right. Keeping that coupon is kind of a gamble, on one hand you want to get as much thing to sell as possible but on the other hand you're never sure if the value is going to drop or raise. Or if you're like me that coupon become a "too awesome to use" trope.

And yeah the grinding system feels like mabinogi's special upgrade with all those up and down.

@_@ next update release

Where the Darkness Gathers - Part 1

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Edit: PS Vita beta closed beta registrations are now open. Also heres the opening for Vita version of PSO2.

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