Looking to buy a Gaming computer(Unable to to build one)

• Tropacat wrote on 2012-12-10 18:11
  So I've been looking at this for awhile now and wanted to know what you guys think
  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+ENVY+Desktop+-+10GB+Memory+-+1TB+Hard+Drive/6835567.p;jsessionid=D794ADDF50B786C7B021DCCEB9F5AB16.bbolsp-app06-23?id=1218809260533&skuId=6835567
  
  Note: I cannot buy things off the net, so that means I'll be unable to build my own gaming computer, I'll have to buy things physically.
  
  If you know any other good models, let me know(I perfer to buy from Bestbuy or any nationwide electronic stores)
• Valkyrio wrote on 2012-12-10 18:57
  Just because you can't buy things off of the net doesn't mean you can't build your own computer. They still sell all parts to build a computer at retail stores, even if they don't have the model you want, they can get it shipped to that store so you can pick it up and pay for it in person. I'd suggest at least considering this option.
  
  If you still want to buy one, then I'd suggest you stick to whatever is on sale. Retail computers are crap - so no matter the brand you won't get much out of it.
  
  A third option is buying a retail computer and upgrading it yourself. (i.e. buying a computer with a decent CPU and RAM, then upgrading the video card [which again, is sold at retail stores.])
• Kyubey wrote on 2012-12-10 19:14
  Pretty sure you can get an already assembled PC with 8gb ram,a top processor and a decent graphics card for roughly $750. Isn't exactly a gamer pc but it works, i just recommend changing the graphics card since the one that comes on this kind of pcs usually sucks.
• Tropacat wrote on 2012-12-10 19:15

  Quote from Valkyrio;995984:

  decent CPU and RAM

  
  
  Whats considered as "decent"?
  
  >Not tech sabby
• Evaris wrote on 2012-12-10 19:28

  Quote from Tropacat;995991:

  Whats considered as "decent"?
  
  >Not tech sabby

  
  
  Decent CPUs;
  Intel: Any of their "i" series processors. (i3/i5/i7)
  Core 2 Quad (older)
  AMD:
  Phenom II X4 (older)
  Phenom II X6 (older)
  A8 series processors
  A10 series processors
  FX-6xxx series processors
  FX-8xxx series processors
  
  RAM: 4/8/16/32Gb. Anything less than 4 is below standard currently in a PC, and anything which doesn't follow the doubling standard has unbalanced RAM, and as such is in all likelihood a less stable system.
  
  Though, you should check if there is a Microcenter near you, they sell PC components should you be interested at all in building your own. (they are a nationwide chain) And bestbuy sells a good majority of the parts and will pricematch newegg.
  
  
  
  For that PC, i would recommend getting balanced RAM and put in a new graphics card and power supply, but after that it would be a decent system.
  Without upgrading the components, this would probably be a better system for gaming, and comes with an IPS monitor (Which is an awesome deal if you're not a hardcore gamer); http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+Pavilion+p7-1414+Desktop+%26+23%22+LED+IPS+Monitor+Package/9999194300050004.p?id=pcmprd193600050004&skuId=9999194300050004
• Valkyrio wrote on 2012-12-10 19:34
  I would suggest avoiding the computer you linked. It can't run anything other than Windows 8 (no drivers) and apparently windows 8 on it sucks.
  
  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/iBuyPower+-+Desktop+-+8GB+Memory+-+500GB+Hard+Drive/6979787.p?id=1218818468711&skuId=6979787#tab=overview
  
  This one might be good. Unsure about whether it has drivers for windows 7, but I've found no complaints about win 8. 500 GB should be enough for you, but even if it's not, you can buy a 1 TB drive and install it yourself (which is pretty simple.)
• Evaris wrote on 2012-12-10 19:37

  Quote from Valkyrio;996003:

  I would suggest avoiding the computer you linked. It can't run anything other than Windows 8 (no drivers) and apparently windows 8 on it sucks.
  
  http://www.bestbuy.com/site/iBuyPower+-+Desktop+-+8GB+Memory+-+500GB+Hard+Drive/6979787.p?id=1218818468711&skuId=6979787#tab=overview
  
  
  This one might be good. Unsure about whether it has drivers for windows 7, but I've found no complaints about win 8. 500 GB should be enough for you, but even if it's not, you can buy a 1 TB drive and install it yourself (which is pretty simple.)

  
  
  I actually would say the ibuypower is probably your better bet OP, though you'll have to have it ordered to the store for you.
• Knightmehre wrote on 2012-12-10 20:35
  What's your budget and what do you want to play?
  
  Those are more important in selecting a pc, or making one.
• Tropacat wrote on 2012-12-10 20:45

  Quote from Knightmehre;996042:

  What's your budget and what do you want to play?
  
  Those are more important in selecting a pc, or making one.

  
  
  Hmm, 600~800$
  
  Something to where I can play both Mabinogi and Minecraft lag-less at the same time.
  
  I also wanna be able to record videos lag-less aswell.
• Knightmehre wrote on 2012-12-10 21:09

  Quote from Tropacat;996045:

  Hmm, 600~800$
  
  Something to where I can play both Mabinogi and Minecraft lag-less at the same time.
  
  I also wanna be able to record videos lag-less aswell.

  
  
  That second part is only dedicated by a little bit of ram, a good processor, and a dedicated Harddrive for recording so it shouldn't be hard.
  
  I can help you look for one, but are you sure you're not up for building? Because the parts and components can far exceed what you can build than what you buy already made.
• Tropacat wrote on 2012-12-10 21:29

  Quote from Knightmehre;996067:

  That second part is only dedicated by a little bit of ram, a good processor, and a dedicated Harddrive for recording so it shouldn't be hard.
  
  I can help you look for one, but are you sure you're not up for building? Because the parts and components can far exceed what you can build than what you buy already made.

  
  
  Hmm, well I'll add you on skype.
• Evaris wrote on 2012-12-11 07:56
  I would be willing to help as well, should you be interested in a second opinion.