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Space Pirate Nithiel wrote on 2012-12-15 23:49
I've heard a lot of debate by artists over whether you have to have natural talent to be a great artist, or whether you can start out not even being able to color in the lines and become a great artist through learning and practice.
I've heard a lot of the Natural Talent artists telling those without it that they should just give up and stop wasting their time because they will never be good without the natural talent for art.
I would like to believe that through practice you can become just as good as someone with the natural talent, it just takes much longer. I think because of that a lot of people aren't willing to try because they get frustrated with it and give up when they look at their art and see crap and then look at someone with natural talent who has been drawing for a week and is already 10x better then them.
What do you think? Taught or Talent?
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2012-12-15 23:52
Why does it have to Black or White? Why not grey?
Same thing applies to art.
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Bakuryu wrote on 2012-12-16 00:06
There's people that have an easier time learning it.
But even them have to spend countless hours, years, to become even decent at it.
You just have to study, practice and have a lot of perseverance.
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GODZILLA wrote on 2012-12-16 00:08
My friend used to suck. Now he's fifty times better then me.
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Formula wrote on 2012-12-16 00:16
I believe one can get good at art with a lot of practice. However, you have to understand what "a lot of practice" means.
Consider a person that has never tried to draw before who starts to practice now compared with someone who's been doodling and "practicing" for fun nonstop since they were about three years old.
If the second person continues to practice today, obviously the first person might see it as futile to try to catch up and get to their level.
What would "talent" for an artist be, anyway? A steady hand? A certain way of thinking? Do you mean it like genetic thing?
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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-12-16 00:57
Both.
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Dracius wrote on 2012-12-16 01:11
Rank up Sketching, Linearting and Coloring skills, get a good reforge on a tablet, and you're set to being a Grandmaster Artist.
OT: ¿Por qué no los dos?
I find that naturally talented artists aren't born amazing at art (Save for prodigies, but they break all the rules), but they just develop an affinity for it at an early age, so they have more 'practice' as Formula put it.
People who, to put it lightly, aren't good at drawing most likely didn't start it until recently, and don't have the amount of practice and experience with it to compare to the person who started earlier.
I myself just casually doodled and drew when I was younger compared to all the other boys running around with their footballs and baseballs. I continued to do that to get to the point where I am now, and I'm still constantly improving.
Compared to my friend who doodled/drew hardcore as a main interest, I'm still mediocre compared to her.
Natural talent can only get you so far, but it just gives people a head-start compared to those without it.
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RealityBreak wrote on 2012-12-16 01:15
Quote from Dracius;998926:
Rank up Sketching, Linearting and Coloring skills, get a good reforge on a tablet, and you're set to being a Grandmaster Artist.
OT: ¿Por qué no los dos?
Get reforges on your paintbrushes and pencils too, and make sure you use finest paint/ink (kill bears or something, i dunno).
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Bakuryu wrote on 2012-12-16 12:45
Since someone mentioned tablets, I want to mention that you DO NOT NEED A TABLET to get better at art, I've seen way too many posts in art-related forums people saying things like "My tablet broke, can't practice", "Waiting for my tablet to arrive to start practicing", and I go like WHAT THE FUCKSAUCES? Grab a pencil, a crayon, a lipstick, any fucking thing that leaves a mark in a piece of paper, a box, anything, and draw.
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Kitkat wrote on 2012-12-16 13:08
If you can even draw a line, squiggly or straight, you have artistic talent.
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Having good talent helps, but if you practice lots, and have an open mind to learning how to do things, then you can do just fine without it!
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Grumpycat wrote on 2012-12-16 16:17
Both, some of the best arts were taught.
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Zeo wrote on 2012-12-16 17:33
Either one.
Like many other posts said. You can have natural artistic skills, or you can practice and be better than the ones with natural artistic skills.
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Cynic wrote on 2012-12-16 18:42
Both will only get you so far.
Natural talent is great for starting out with since it lets you excel quickly with little to no practice. However, you do need to start practicing at some point in order to go beyond using just your natural abilities.
Practice is difficult without natural talent since it takes a lot longer to get as good as somebody who was born great, but practice will get you farther in the long run if you put in enough time.
But as with most things, you do need both in order to be "the best".
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Cho wrote on 2012-12-16 19:22
Everyone has the ability to be creative. Why does anyone need to assume that a natural gift such as creativity flow in only a selected few people? We're all born with it, just some people practice it frequently more than others do.
Everyone is able to become a "talented" artist, as long as they try.
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Kelta wrote on 2012-12-19 17:10
Its both, it can be both talent and taught
For instance take these two artists,
http://sorcererlance.deviantart.com/
i don't think you can see any of the -really- old stuf, but i knew this person back when we were in jr high, the artwork was very unproportionate, like a 3 year old drew it. Look at it now, and although its not high quality amazing artwork, you can't argue that those proportions look very good. Thats because of 4 years of art college.
Now look at this person
http://ajax50.deviantart.com/
i've know that person since jr high as well, and we didn't really have art in elementary school, aside from like pottery. She also went to art school, but it hasn't improved at all. thats not to say it wasn't good to begin with. but she started out that good