Chiyuri the beginer.

• Yoorah wrote on 2013-01-12 23:59
  Whether or not drawings should start from basic shapes is debatable, sure, but the importance of being able to draw a circle before you move on to other stuff is not. The fact that she finds it to be "impossible" is exactly why she needs to focus on that first, IMO.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2013-01-13 00:04

  Quote from otto;1013180:

  ^^ I wouldn't recommend that to everyone, especially if they have trouble with drawing shapes at certain angles/directions. They may be the foundation of everything, but if you're not good with them it doesnt mean you'll never be able to draw something well. Using basic shapes makes my art worse personally. It's all up to preference.
  
  
  
  Actually, the components of the face are very well placed. There's a good distance between the eyes and hairline, and the chin and mouth (even i have problems with that orz;;)
  
  
  I think you're off to an awesome start! Dont worry about style right now, just have fun with it and practice different things (try drawing past the neck y/y? ;D). You're a fuckton better than I was when I first started lol

  
  
  Thansk you so much Otto ^^
  Yea, I feel like I learned more by trying to draw a finished face first than drawing basic shapes.
  
  As other people said, I'm not going to post these scribbles on deviant art. Going to work on refining it for a while first and figure out how to do various head movement. At some point I'll try to draw body and then I'll probably start posting it.
  Anyway, I though about it and what I think I really loved was the way the eyes were made, then the small nose and mouth. This slightly "Bored and dozed off" feel they have is great.
  
  Right now I'm working on trying different hairstyles (currently looking for referance materials to use)
  Once I find an hairstyle I really like, I'll polish it and go back to drawing emotions, I wanna try a large array of emotions.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2013-01-13 00:16

  Quote from Yoorah;1013183:

  Whether or not drawings should start from basic shapes is debatable, sure, but the importance of being able to draw a circle before you move on to other stuff is not. The fact that she finds it to be "impossible" is exactly why she needs to focus on that first, IMO.

  
  
  I really tried to make circles but...
  
  Here is an example of various circles.. a bunch of the first one is me trying to do it in one try.
  some I tried to draw in reverse. Near the middle of the page I started trying to draw 2 curve and have them join up as a circle. Finally at the end I tried passing the pensil multipel times, littlew stroke per little storke to form a circle. Doing that hurt my hand through.
  

  [Image: http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/Chiyuriyami/IMG154.jpg]
• Lewd wrote on 2013-01-13 00:21

  Quote from Chiyuri;1013190:

  I really tried to make circles but...
  
  Here is an example of various circles.. a bunch of the first one is me trying to do it in one try.
  some I tried to draw in reverse. Near the middle of the page I started trying to draw 2 curve and have them join up as a circle. Finally at the end I tried passing the pensil multipel times, littlew stroke per little storke to form a circle. Doing that hurt my hand through.
  

  [Image: http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/Chiyuriyami/IMG154.jpg]

  
  
  Get some graph paper and make circles inside some squares
• Yoorah wrote on 2013-01-13 00:22
  Well, you've got some in there that look close enough! I think it's a pretty good way to learn visualization and control. Keep at it. :3
• Chiyuri wrote on 2013-01-13 00:28

  Quote from Yoorah;1013195:

  Well, you've got some in there that look close enough! I think it's a pretty good way to learn visualization and control. Keep at it. :3

  
  
  I don't really see myself trying 221 times in a row to draw one circle every time I want to draw a face. The paper is gonna be dark in pensil dust before I am done.
• Yoorah wrote on 2013-01-13 00:37
  LOL
  Well, the point is that it'll teach you how to draw a curve properly. It helps you refine basic technique so you can draw faces and whatever easier. You don't have to start drawing a face from a circle if you don't want to, although technically, it's generally accepted to be the standard technique.
• Shanghai wrote on 2013-01-13 00:46

  Quote from Chiyuri;1013197:

  I don't really see myself trying 221 times in a row to draw one circle every time I want to draw a face. The paper is gonna be dark in pensil dust before I am done.

  
  
  That's not the attitude you wouldn't want to shoot for. The thing is: You just started yesterday. There's a void of improvements before you'll reach the point you'll want to aim for, and by then you'd want to aim for more.
  
  I started self-teaching myself in early January last year. Just around 3 weeks before this time. If I could hi-jack for one moment, let me show you a quick time-lapse of my sketches:
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  [Image: http://puu.sh/1N0Ft]

  
  That was one of the [S]most disgusting things I had ever hoped would come out of my mind[/S] first things I drew.
  These are more recent.
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/1rOZd]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/1EBeH]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/1F2lr]

  [/SPOILER]
  
  Big difference, no? Just keep at it. I hope to learn how to shade, and detail things this year to make them look more than a sketch this year.
  
  I honestly never used any of that whole DRAW-A-CIRCLE-FOUNDATION stuff until November-ish, and even then I would still use it occasionally since I have qualms about it since there's so many different positions or variations of the circle-head-foundation-stuff. I can draw perfect circles I will tell you that though.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2013-01-13 00:52

  Quote from Shanghai;1013202:

  That's not the attitude you wouldn't want to shoot for. The thing is: You just started yesterday. There's a void of improvements before you'll reach the point you'll want to aim for, and by then you'd want to aim for more.
  
  I started self-teaching myself in early January last year. Just around 3 weeks before this time. If I could hi-jack for one moment, let me show you a quick time-lapse of my sketches:
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"]

  [Image: http://puu.sh/1N0Ft]

  
  That was one of the [S]most disgusting things I had ever hoped would come out of my mind[/S] first things I drew.
  These are more recent.
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/1rOZd]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/1EBeH]

  
  

  [Image: http://puu.sh/1F2lr]

  [/SPOILER]
  
  Big difference, no? Just keep at it. I hope to learn how to shade, and detail things this year to make them look more than a sketch this year.
  
  I honestly never used any of that whole DRAW-A-CIRCLE-FOUNDATION stuff until November-ish, and even then I would still use it occasionally since I have qualms about it since there's so many different positions or variations of the circle-head-foundation-stuff. I can draw perfect circles I will tell you that though.

  
  
  So I should forget what I learned and go back to practicing circles?
• Shanghai wrote on 2013-01-13 00:56

  Quote from Chiyuri;1013204:

  So I should forget what I learned and go back to practicing circles?

  
  
  Do whatever you feel would make you improve is what I'm trying to get at. There is no perfect way to draw anything; it's just how the people perceive it is what counts apparently in our society. It's more on the process, not the result that you learn. You could continue practicing circles, or you could be like me who spent his first 2 months just drawing terrible stuff like the first image until I got the hang of it and started to draw actual things that don't suck. There's many ways to tackle art, and that's what I like about it and why I just kept sketching. Don't forget to reference things if you're having trouble, but I say don't rely on it too much or else your style essentially becomes theirs and you develop a false perception of what's actually good.
• otto wrote on 2013-01-13 01:03
  Hrm.. the problem I have with some of these suggestions right now is that circles and shapes really arent the things to focus on at the beginning of any art journey. Basic shapes wont help you if you can't visualize what you're drawing correctly in the first place.
  If I had to suggest something it'd be lines. Testing out how you draw different lines; thick ones, thin ones, squiggly, wavy, etc. and how you use those lines together are more important (again, imo).
  
  Testing emotions, and head angles sounds like a great plan. I would just take it day by day for now, and not sweat the technical stuff.
• Taycat wrote on 2013-01-13 03:09
  Just draw whatever you like.
  That's what I did.
  I eventually learned.
  If you want, I can find old "comics" I'd draw in notebooks and show you something more recent.
• Chiyuri wrote on 2013-01-13 03:40
  ok, so as talked on the mabination chat, here is my first try at adding more than just an head.
  Sadly I failed to pull off the tsundere look.
  
  

  [Image: http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/Chiyuriyami/IMG164.jpg]
• Hexed wrote on 2013-01-13 07:51
  You seem to be off to a good start! Definitely way better than when I first started! My first drawings always make me cringe just looking at them. ([S]so do some of my more recent ones too[/S]) Keep working!
• Skye wrote on 2013-01-13 09:15
  Hot damn, that looks great and I am severely jealous.
  
  Even when I was younger and and still had some skills and drew often it didn't look that good.