Building my trickroom/Double battle Team

• Grumpycat wrote on 2013-02-13 19:33
  So far I've only have three Pokemon for my Official online team, Still trying to be trick room oriented.
  
  Lets start off with my #1 favorite Pokemon since childhood, despite being really weak to Grass, he tanks everything else.
  

  [Image: http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/black-white/anim/normal/swampert.gif]

  
  Swampert - [Water/Ground]
  EVs: 252 Attack/252 HP/4 Def
  Trait: Torrent
  • Waterfall(Stab)
  • Earthquake(Stab)
  • Hammer Arm(Coverage + Speed)
  • Protect
  Covers: Ice/Steel/Rock/Fire/Ground/Dark/Normal
  Thanks to his typing, Swampert is only weak to one type. His bulkiness can also become problematic to those who can't resist him. He is gonna be the lead for most of my battles.
  While under the Trick-room effect, His Hammer arm will make him faster.
  
  Okay, second favorite Pokemon that's also a Physical Tank+Hard hitter with one weakness.
  

  [Image: http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/black-white/anim/normal/escavalier.gif]

  
  Escavalier - [Bug/Steel]
  Evs: 252 Attack/252 HP/4 S.def
  Trait: Swarm
  • Megahorn(Stab)
  • Iron Head(Stab)
  • Return(Natural damage)
  • Protect
  Covers: Grass/Ground/Physic/Rock/Ice/Dark
  Thanks to his Bug/Steel typing and great defenses Escavalier can wall alot of things and only being weak to Fire, while in Double battles when it's on the field with Swampert, Swampert will destroy any Threats to Escavalier by drowning Fire types and Escavalier will do the same for Swampert by eatting Grass types. Hes also able to KO one of the bulkiest pokemon in the Metagame; Cresselia.
  
  Lets try to get more coverage in my team, I also need a Special attacker.
  

  [Image: http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/black-white/anim/normal/chandelure.gif]

  
  Chandelure - [Fire/Ghost]
  EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SpA
  Trait: Flame body
  • Heat wave(Stab)
  • Energyball(Coverage)
  • Trickroom
  • Protect
  Covers: Grass/Steel/Ice/Bug/Ground/Water/Rock
  This can also be a core to Swampert by frying grass types, with Energyball it can clear most of it's own threats while under Trick-room condition.
  
  Lets grab another Special user in here, lets see what I can get...
  

  [Image: http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/black-white/anim/normal/slowking.gif]

  
  Slowking - [Water/Physic]
  EVs: 252 HP/252 SpA/4 SpD
  Trait: Own Tempo
  • Trickroom
  • Heal Pales
  • Flamethrower(Coverage)
  • Icebeam(Coverage)
  Covers: Grass/Ground/Steel/Ice/Flying
  Looking at Slowking's Movepool was a winner to me, being able to use Heal pales, Flamethrower and Icebeam would help my team greatly. He'll be able to burn down walls and threats to Swampert while being able to freeze ground types to cover Chandelure. Heal pales alone is good for double battles for pokemon that can't recover themselves.
  
  
  Room for two more, Gotta see what fits, I need a Setter and a reliable Electric type.
  
  Any suggestions? Thanks.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-02-13 19:41
  For a reliable Electric Type how about that Washer Rotom?
  
  Wash Rotom is only weak to Grass type and is immune to Ground. Also has some pretty decent power/speed too.
  
  Another option is Eelektross. No weaknesses at all :D
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2013-02-14 04:07
  get a regenerator slowking
  Replace flamethrower with fire blast
  the extra BP is worth it
  The cat doesnt think that he should have 2 non-attack moves when you dont have that much turns in a trick room and it's solved by having a regenerator slowking
  replace heal pulse with surf
  
  Chandelure
  replace heat wave with fire blast
  it's only 5 BP more than flamethrower and you're exchanging 5 BP for 10% less accuracy which is bad.
  Also he needs to burn holes into the other team
  again follow the format: 3 attacks and 1 utility max
  replace protect with shadow ball
  he's a glass cannon anyways.
  
  dont give protect to your team when you need the turns to attack
  trick room lasts like 5 turns
  
  also
  Dragonite
  Life Orb
  ability: Multiscale
  EVs: 252 Atk / 4 HP / 252 SAtk
  Draco Meteor
  -ExtremeSpeed
  Fire Blast
  Superpower
  
  Rotom-W
  Volt switch
  hydro pump
  thunderbolt
  pain split
• BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2013-02-14 19:07
  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/tShn8KT.jpg]

  
  
  get a fucking honchcrow fellow cat
  nao
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-02-14 19:47
  You make a very compelling case with that poster of Honchcrow. I am going to have to agree with the cat on this one cause Jesus, that crow is one scary motherfucker.
• Grumpycat wrote on 2013-02-14 21:40

  Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;1032457:

  get a regenerator slowking
  Replace flamethrower with fire blast
  the extra BP is worth it
  The cat doesnt think that he should have 2 non-attack moves when you dont have that much turns in a trick room and it's solved by having a regenerator slowking
  replace heal pulse with surf

  
  
  Yeah, a regenerator Slowking seems good
  
  

  Chandelure
  replace heat wave with fire blast
  it's only 5 BP more than flamethrower and you're exchanging 5 BP for 10% less accuracy which is bad.
  Also he needs to burn holes into the other team
  again follow the format: 3 attacks and 1 utility max
  replace protect with shadow ball
  he's a glass cannon anyways.

  
  
  yeah, this was hard to think around, but i don't wanna be killing it with swampert's EQ or Slowking's surf
  
  

  dont give protect to your team when you need the turns to attack
  trick room lasts like 5 turns
  

  
  
  Cores, I like to try to keep my pokemon alive as much as possible and plus if that one moment comes up where EQ/Surf would badly hurt the other team, i wouldn't want to hurt/kill my secondary poke.
  
  

  also
  Dragonite
  Life Orb
  ability: Multiscale
  EVs: 252 Atk / 4 HP / 252 SAtk
  Draco Meteor
  -ExtremeSpeed
  Fire Blast
  Superpower
  
  Rotom-W
  Volt switch
  hydro pump
  thunderbolt
  pain split

  
  
  Seems like good choices, looking into Dragonknight and the Crow
• Ban wrote on 2013-02-15 00:35
  [video=youtube;pse_I1klRhA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pse_I1klRhA[/video]
  How do I even begin to describe the attacks...
• Grumpycat wrote on 2013-02-15 02:45

  Quote from Ban;1032972:

  [video=youtube;pse_I1klRhA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pse_I1klRhA[/video]
  How do I even begin to describe the attacks...

  
  
  Wrong thread
• Deitylight wrote on 2013-02-15 03:23

  Quote from Ban;1032972:

  [video=youtube;pse_I1klRhA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pse_I1klRhA[/video]
  How do I even begin to describe the attacks...

  
  At least one of them is swift.
• Ban wrote on 2013-02-15 03:29
  ^That's what I get when I have more than one Nation tab open, which is rare. Oh well.
  
  The Cat made me want that Honchkrow, though, so now that's more Pokemon I want. ;;
• Karaage wrote on 2013-02-16 06:51
  You want around 2-3 trick roomers, so i would recommend putting a 3rd trick roomer into the team.
  
  I hate to compound weaknesses but Reuniclus is an amazing trick room user, his base speed is already ridiculously low and he has great spec attack
  
  

  [Image: http://img.pokemondb.net/sprites/black-white/anim/normal/reuniclus.gif]

  
  Reuniclus - [Psychic]
  EVs: 192 HP/ 64 Def/ 252 Spec attack
  IVs: 0 Speed
  Nature: Quiet
  Trait: Magic Guard
  Item: Life Orb
  

  
  
  • Trick room
    
  • Psychic/Psyshock
    
  • Focus Blast
    
  • Shadow Ball/HP Fire
    

  
  
  Magic guard makes it so he takes no life orb recoil while still boosting his damage making him hit like a truck, very few things can switch in safely if you predict properly. His coverage is stellar too, just send him in on something scared of him throw up a trick room and wreck havoc o3o
  
  Reliable electric type...I honestly recommend you get a pokemon that works outside of trick room in this case (there aren't many slow reliable electric types anyways). Thunderus-T comes to mind as a good reliable electric type that likes to threaten things with ridiculous power.
  
  

  [Image: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/176/b/c/thundurus_sprite_by_legendkyurem97-d54rvop.gif]

  
  Thunderus-T - [Electric/Flying]
  EVs: 252 Spec Attack / 252 Speed / 4 Def (or w/e you feel like)
  Nature: Timid
  Trait: Volt Absorb
  Item: Choice Scarf
  

  
  
  • Volt Switch
    
  • Thunderbolt
    
  • Focus Blast
    
  • HP Ice
    

  
  
  He has great coverage and works as a good lead along with a trick room 'mon. You volt switch out on a pokemon you don't like, while your other throws up a trick room, and you can switch into something that threatens them 8D. Timid is crucial for outspeeding silly threats that you can beat up normally. The move set is pretty simple, T-bolt for more power than volt switch, focus blast because scroo you t-tar, and hp ice because scroo all dragons.
  
  etc etc insight
  
  :v
  8v
  You should change your Slowking's ability to Regenerator, so you spend less time healing him and he spends more time putting up trick room and healing the other guy.
  
  Same with Chandelure, change it's ability to Flash Fire, lets you switch into fire moves and get a more powerful Fire Blast, not like you'll be taking any physical moves all that well in order to burn anything....that too, switch to Fire Blast, you'll miss the power if you don't, if you miss, oh well o3o hax is part of the game, embrace it /o/
  
  Edit:
  Ohey this entire end part was mentioned by a cat...well /agree 8u