gun reforges

• Mentosftw wrote on 2013-03-07 00:47
  Actually, although the max damage reforge sounds good, elementals are still far far superior.
  
  Even at lv 20, you only get 100 max damage. The highest elementals we can get are level 6 and since they're used by people who have 400 max or so,you'd only need a level 4 reforge to significantly surpass it.
  
  But srsly.... that 100 max translates to 300 max if you get r5 on those guns, which would surpass level 6 elemental under frenzy conditions xD
  
  Also 180 seconds of cooldown for frenzy, final hit and final shot have much more lengthier cooldowns and their effects are no where as powerful as frenzy's
  
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• radionoise wrote on 2013-03-07 00:57

  Quote from Mentosftw;1043329:

  But srsly.... that 100 max translates to 300 max if you get r5 on those guns, which would surpass level 6 elemental under frenzy conditions xD

  
  
  ...how to surpass?
  100 max damage becomes 300 damage per critical frenzy shot
  Lv 6 ele would add 300~400+ max that would become 900~1200 damage per critical frenzy shot.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2013-03-07 01:00
  500 max + level 6 (55.5%) = 277.5 damage
  
  550 max + level 6 = 305.25 damage
  
  Sure you can crit but over time frenzy will still do more dmg.
  
  Attack speed increased and double shots so basically it's x2 damage anyways.
• abc33kr wrote on 2013-03-07 01:03
  no elemental reforge is still better than 100max.
  the gun mastery reforge just means that reforge on guns aren't crap.
• radionoise wrote on 2013-03-07 01:05

  Quote from Mentosftw;1043343:

  500 max + level 6 (55.5%) = 277.5 damage
  
  550 max + level 6 = 305.25 damage
  
  Sure you can crit but over time frenzy will still do more dmg.
  
  Attack speed increased and double shots so basically it's x2 damage anyways.

  
  
  I have no idea what you're trying to say.
  
  

  Quote from Mentosftw;1043329:

  But srsly.... that 100 max translates to 300 max if you get r5 on those guns, which would surpass level 6 elemental under frenzy conditions xD

  
  
  You indicate here that 100 max would surpass lv 6 elemental under frenzy conditions. That is not the case, and guns can't even get level 6 elemental to make a comparison between the effects of 100 max vs lv 6 elemental on a gun. Either way you'll always be comparing 100 max vs 55.5% damage or more.
• Mentosftw wrote on 2013-03-07 01:08
  Oh you're comparing it to guns if they did have ele reforges aren't you.
  
  I was talking about other weapons since they ARE in the realm of possibility.
  
  Oh yeah then if guns had ele reforges, then an easy lv 3-4 reforge would just knock the socks off the max dmg reforges.
• radionoise wrote on 2013-03-07 01:15

  Quote from Mentosftw;1043349:

  Oh you're comparing it to guns if they did have ele reforges aren't you.
  
  I was talking about other weapons since they ARE in the realm of possibility.
  
  Oh yeah then if guns had ele reforges, then an easy lv 3-4 reforge would just knock the socks off the max dmg reforges.

  
  
  Oh, you're comparing to a different skillset/weapon.
  
  In that case, it's not really a valid comparison because skillsets have very different multipliers and damage ranges.
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-03-07 01:30

  Quote from Mentosftw;1043329:

  
  But srsly.... that 100 max translates to 300 max if you get r5 on those guns, which would surpass level 6 elemental under frenzy conditions xD
  
  Also 180 seconds of cooldown for frenzy, final hit and final shot have much more lengthier cooldowns and their effects are no where as powerful as frenzy's

  
  
  Now that you mention that....I wounder if they'll change the cool down for those skills in the future to be a tad shorter..or do extra? Like extra % dmg for FH and FS and......idk what they could do for windgaurd to even make it worthwhile >.>
• Emeraldsun wrote on 2013-03-07 02:02

  Quote from Kenero;1043261:

  You will upgrade guns eventually... all of you... .-.
  
  [video=youtube;ANdfdvTaD7U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANdfdvTaD7U[/video]

  
  
  Oh man I love that song. Never thought I'd see it in a game vid.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-03-07 02:09

  Quote from Emeraldsun;1043389:

  Oh man I love that song. Never thought I'd see it in a game vid.

  
  
  I love how that guy uses mostly single attacks and single taget skills instead of gunner's AOE to show its fast speed. xx
• KizuUrei wrote on 2013-03-07 09:50

  Quote from Slayerj;1043369:

  Now that you mention that....I wounder if they'll change the cool down for those skills in the future to be a tad shorter..or do extra? Like extra % dmg for FH and FS and......idk what they could do for windgaurd to even make it worthwhile >.>

  
  
  uhm~, make it so that they can move around freely and use any skill they normaly could? :D (talkin' 'bout WG)
• wilson10000 wrote on 2013-07-10 19:52
  Sorry for bringing up this old thread, but where's the Gun Reload Reduction reforge located at? And How much does it reduce? 1-10?
  
  Thanks
• nandattebayo wrote on 2013-07-10 20:14

  Quote from wilson10000;1120153:

  Sorry for bringing up this old thread, but where's the Gun Reload Reduction reforge located at? And How much does it reduce? 1-10?
  
  Thanks

  
  
  Instead of necroing old threads, please use the thread here for upcoming content questions:
  
  http://mabination.com/threads/72106-Mabinogi-Foreign-Mabinogi-Small-Questions-Thread
• Syrion wrote on 2013-07-11 22:39

  Quote from Iyasenu;1043138:

  The people who had guns with elemental reforges had those reforges removed, if I remember correctly.
  
  And other weapons' elemental reforges haven't changed or been removed.

  
  
  source for this?
• radionoise wrote on 2013-07-11 22:50

  Quote from Syrion;1120893:

  source for this?

  
  
  The few ppl who had elemental reforge on guns before it became unavailable kept it.
  
  Even lv 4 elemental guns are nowadays worth dozens upon dozens of millions.