Retard wrote on 2013-03-08 01:38
its funy to see two people with the same names tho
Joker wrote on 2013-03-08 03:03
oh pls for the love of god no..
Idris wrote on 2013-03-08 04:38
Um... not so funny. Just because it's too painful just yet.
Because of the limitations on the Ignore function- even with the Advanced Ignore, the thread titles still show up, which in one person's case contains the entire thought process of the post...
My comparison here is that it's been said that this is a public place. It ain't, but I'll proceed with that assumption. In a public place, you find graffiti; destructive and annoying. So you express disappointment in that graffiti. You're told it's a public place, get over it. Doesn't make sense, but ok... you leave that place. Eventually that entire part of town is blanketed with that graffiti, and you and anyone else who cares gets told that it's a protected form of public expression. So, you and everyone else like you either gets enraged, enters a mind altered state (drugs or insanity or religion) where you no longer care, or you quit going to that part of town.
That happens in real life, more or less. It's often called Urban Blight.
In these forums I saw the encroaching blight, resisted it, attempted to educate it, and eventually just left. Haven't been here in months. In the sake of absolute honesty, he-who-must-not-be-named is not the only person I've had problems with.
So I left. I don't have delusions of grandeur- I'm certain that my absence caused nobody grief. However, there are people who have been integral parts of the community here for ages, who are being pushed away by one troublemaker. A troublemaker who is notoriously noisy, but who is amazingly silent when asked about WHY he does what he does. [UB]Never seen anything by him to explain his behavior[/UB]. One of the mods insists that because a younger sibling is occasionally invoked as the originator of a query, that this grants an extra degree of sainthood to our troubled acquaintance. *shrug*
Really, there are three options; mental disability, devious troll, or person who is addicted to attention. If it's the first one, then come out and own it. We'll make accommodations. I suggested ages ago a thread dedicated to just his questions... and that idea works regardless for his mental state.
Devious troll- if that's the case, don't think he'll out himself too much. He's been doing this very carefully, if trolling.
Attention seeker- if it's just that, then I suggest therapy and banning.
ATTENTION MODS: Something you ought to look into, are the problems experienced by "intentional communities" when you have a freeloader aboard. Generally that term "i.c." is used for ecovillages etc- people literally moving into a community of like minded people. With the best of intentions, these groups often fall into the trap of saying that everyone is welcome to come. With that, parasites come and destroy the group. Financial, emotional, Attention- if the group gets someone who tries to take more than they give, it can destroy the group. And just like this community, the people who are the first ones to leave, are the ones you need the most. In ecovillages, the pragmatic, down to earth people realize that they can't take it anymore, and that it's not worth it to keep on. If the parasite stays, they leave. Making the parasite's demands all the more exacting on those who remain.
Now you've started banning some of those who didn't leave already... who cared too much about the community to leave, and so tried to get rid of what they perceived as the problem. At some point you have to deal with the problem, not just of what people say to him when they overreact, but of the drain he is to the group. Are you ok with a possible future where the only signs of life here consist of people giving him attention? You've got an 800 pound gorilla in the room, and I see that no progress has been made on dealing with it.
Give me a ban for flaming if you see fit, but there's not much point. Loss of human contact on these forums led to less motivation to play Mabinogi, and since it's now been two months since I logged on (couldn't even get excited about the 3x AP event returning- I was just "what's the point?"), I'm officially over my attachment to the game.
If I remember to, I'll check up on these forums in a couple of months, just out of curiosity about how things worked out.
Hanna wrote on 2013-03-08 04:41
Quote from Idris;1044198:
Um... not so funny. Just because it's too painful just yet.
Because of the limitations on the Ignore function- even with the Advanced Ignore, the thread titles still show up, which in one person's case contains the entire thought process of the post...
My comparison here is that it's been said that this is a public place. It ain't, but I'll proceed with that assumption. In a public place, you find graffiti; destructive and annoying. So you express disappointment in that graffiti. You're told it's a public place, get over it. Doesn't make sense, but ok... you leave that place. Eventually that entire part of town is blanketed with that graffiti, and you and anyone else who cares gets told that it's a protected form of public expression. So, you and everyone else like you either gets enraged, enters a mind altered state (drugs or insanity or religion) where you no longer care, or you quit going to that part of town.
That happens in real life, more or less. It's often called Urban Blight.
In these forums I saw the encroaching blight, resisted it, attempted to educate it, and eventually just left. Haven't been here in months. In the sake of absolute honesty, he-who-must-not-be-named is not the only person I've had problems with.
So I left. I don't have delusions of grandeur- I'm certain that my absence caused nobody grief. However, there are people who have been integral parts of the community here for ages, who are being pushed away by one troublemaker. A troublemaker who is notoriously noisy, but who is amazingly silent when asked about WHY he does what he does. [UB]Never seen anything by him to explain his behavior[/UB]. One of the mods insists that because a younger sibling is occasionally invoked as the originator of a query, that this grants an extra degree of sainthood to our troubled acquaintance. *shrug*
Really, there are three options; mental disability, devious troll, or person who is addicted to attention. If it's the first one, then come out and own it. We'll make accommodations. I suggested ages ago a thread dedicated to just his questions... and that idea works regardless for his mental state.
Devious troll- if that's the case, don't think he'll out himself too much. He's been doing this very carefully, if trolling.
Attention seeker- if it's just that, then I suggest therapy and banning.
ATTENTION MODS: Something you ought to look into, are the problems experienced by "intentional communities" when you have a freeloader aboard. Generally that term "i.c." is used for ecovillages etc- people literally moving into a community of like minded people. With the best of intentions, these groups often fall into the trap of saying that everyone is welcome to come. With that, parasites come and destroy the group. Financial, emotional, Attention- if the group gets someone who tries to take more than they give, it can destroy the group. And just like this community, the people who are the first ones to leave, are the ones you need the most. In ecovillages, the pragmatic, down to earth people realize that they can't take it anymore, and that it's not worth it to keep on. If the parasite stays, they leave. Making the parasite's demands all the more exacting on those who remain.
Now you've started banning some of those who didn't leave already... who cared too much about the community to leave, and so tried to get rid of what they perceived as the problem. At some point you have to deal with the problem, not just of what people say to him when they overreact, but of the drain he is to the group. Are you ok with a possible future where the only signs of life here consist of people giving him attention? You've got an 800 pound gorilla in the room, and I see that no progress has been made on dealing with it.
Give me a ban for flaming if you see fit, but there's not much point. Loss of human contact on these forums led to less motivation to play Mabinogi, and since it's now been two months since I logged on (couldn't even get excited about the 3x AP event returning- I was just "what's the point?"), I'm officially over my attachment to the game.
If I remember to, I'll check up on these forums in a couple of months, just out of curiosity about how things worked out.
What are you talking about?
The person who made this wasn't splat.
On another note, splat doesn't spam like he used to.
Yakumo Yukari wrote on 2013-03-08 10:41
Quote from Idris;1044198:
Um... not so funny. Just because it's too painful just yet.
Because of the limitations on the Ignore function- even with the Advanced Ignore, the thread titles still show up, which in one person's case contains the entire thought process of the post...
My comparison here is that it's been said that this is a public place. It ain't, but I'll proceed with that assumption. In a public place, you find graffiti; destructive and annoying. So you express disappointment in that graffiti. You're told it's a public place, get over it. Doesn't make sense, but ok... you leave that place. Eventually that entire part of town is blanketed with that graffiti, and you and anyone else who cares gets told that it's a protected form of public expression. So, you and everyone else like you either gets enraged, enters a mind altered state (drugs or insanity or religion) where you no longer care, or you quit going to that part of town.
That happens in real life, more or less. It's often called Urban Blight.
In these forums I saw the encroaching blight, resisted it, attempted to educate it, and eventually just left. Haven't been here in months. In the sake of absolute honesty, he-who-must-not-be-named is not the only person I've had problems with.
So I left. I don't have delusions of grandeur- I'm certain that my absence caused nobody grief. However, there are people who have been integral parts of the community here for ages, who are being pushed away by one troublemaker. A troublemaker who is notoriously noisy, but who is amazingly silent when asked about WHY he does what he does. [UB]Never seen anything by him to explain his behavior[/UB]. One of the mods insists that because a younger sibling is occasionally invoked as the originator of a query, that this grants an extra degree of sainthood to our troubled acquaintance. *shrug*
Really, there are three options; mental disability, devious troll, or person who is addicted to attention. If it's the first one, then come out and own it. We'll make accommodations. I suggested ages ago a thread dedicated to just his questions... and that idea works regardless for his mental state.
Devious troll- if that's the case, don't think he'll out himself too much. He's been doing this very carefully, if trolling.
Attention seeker- if it's just that, then I suggest therapy and banning.
ATTENTION MODS: Something you ought to look into, are the problems experienced by "intentional communities" when you have a freeloader aboard. Generally that term "i.c." is used for ecovillages etc- people literally moving into a community of like minded people. With the best of intentions, these groups often fall into the trap of saying that everyone is welcome to come. With that, parasites come and destroy the group. Financial, emotional, Attention- if the group gets someone who tries to take more than they give, it can destroy the group. And just like this community, the people who are the first ones to leave, are the ones you need the most. In ecovillages, the pragmatic, down to earth people realize that they can't take it anymore, and that it's not worth it to keep on. If the parasite stays, they leave. Making the parasite's demands all the more exacting on those who remain.
Now you've started banning some of those who didn't leave already... who cared too much about the community to leave, and so tried to get rid of what they perceived as the problem. At some point you have to deal with the problem, not just of what people say to him when they overreact, but of the drain he is to the group. Are you ok with a possible future where the only signs of life here consist of people giving him attention? You've got an 800 pound gorilla in the room, and I see that no progress has been made on dealing with it.
Give me a ban for flaming if you see fit, but there's not much point. Loss of human contact on these forums led to less motivation to play Mabinogi, and since it's now been two months since I logged on (couldn't even get excited about the 3x AP event returning- I was just "what's the point?"), I'm officially over my attachment to the game.
If I remember to, I'll check up on these forums in a couple of months, just out of curiosity about how things worked out.
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Splat 2013 get over it, if you can't beat the system join it.
truefire wrote on 2013-03-08 10:48
Quote from Idris;1044198:
I am too wrapped up in my own ego to realize the person posting isn't the person I'm bitching about.
There guys, I summarized it.
Fabian wrote on 2013-03-09 02:42
Someone explain to me how this guy hasn't been banned yet?
Taycat wrote on 2013-03-09 02:49
Quote from Fabian;1044990:
Someone explain to me how this guy hasn't been banned yet?
The real or fake splat?
Fabian wrote on 2013-03-09 03:08
Quote from Mythical Detective Loki X;1044993:
The real or fake splat?
Retard. This is obviously a case of bullying.
truefire wrote on 2013-03-09 03:13
Quote from Fabian;1045020:
Retard. This is obviously a case of bullying.
He was banned. Note the strikethrough in his name. You'll also note that Tiger is no longer posting on these forums. (Also, at the time this thread began, Retard's name was Splatulated, with a capital I in place of what looks like the first lowercase l).
Fabian wrote on 2013-03-09 03:17
Quote from truefire;1045025:
He was banned. Note the strikethrough in his name. You'll also note that Tiger is no longer posting on these forums. (Also, at the time this thread began, Retard's name was Splatulated, with a capital I in place of what looks like the first lowercase l).
I've seen people with striked out names posting though. I just figured they did it with magic or something. It's hard to tell who is banned and who is fake banned nowadays since looking at his profile or anything doesn't show any proof of him being banned. Then again I might be wrong about this...
Bakuryu wrote on 2013-03-09 13:19
Quote from Fabian;1045029:
I've seen people with striked out names posting though. I just figured they did it with magic or something. It's hard to tell who is banned and who is fake banned nowadays since looking at his profile or anything doesn't show any proof of him being banned. Then again I might be wrong about this...
There's only one fake banned person AFAIK (Micho). And it says "fake banned" bellow his name.