[Guide] Offensive Bard (Pre-G12)

• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-11 04:44
  Ohmigosh I want r6 CM now...
  I can really help people out a bit if I can play all those songs...
  
  Too bad i'll have to wait til at least friday night to even look at G11 :T_T:
• Justified wrote on 2010-08-11 05:37

  Quote from Kaeporo;120686:

  You mean to say that the best scroll has a r6 combat mastery requirement.

  
  
  Time to annoy people with default music in Dunby so I can get +96 Max Damage.
  I only have 2 Defense anyways, so the penalty is like nothing.
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-11 05:53

  Quote from Justified;120962:

  Time to annoy people with default music in Dunby so I can get +96 Max Damage.
  I only have 2 Defense anyways, so the penalty is like nothing.

  
  
  won't you need someone else to play? :o
  otherwise the boost would go away before you have time for a real attack :X
  
  
  
  edit:
  btw why is this pre-G12?
  what happens in G12?
• Justified wrote on 2010-08-11 06:01

  Quote from Iyasenu;120987:

  won't you need someone else to play? :o
  otherwise the boost would go away before you have time for a real attack :X

  
  
  I was under the impression that it lasts 1 minute no matter what, meaning I could just start and stop it.
  The wiki and "No matter how long the music is, it will only last for 1min" are misleading. (No matter how long - so a song could be one note?)
• Iyasenu wrote on 2010-08-11 06:11

  Quote from Justified;121002:

  I was under the impression that it lasts 1 minute no matter what, meaning I could just start and stop it.
  The wiki and "No matter how long the music is, it will only last for 1min" are misleading. (No matter how long - so a song could be one note?)

  
  
  ah now that i think about it it does sound misleading.
  
  maybe the scrolls are pre-songed?
  
  
  
  
  edit: um is ambiguous the right word to use?
  meh, i'll just say misleading
  
  
  
  what if it's like... even if the song lasts 3 minutes, the magic stops after 1 minute
  
  kinda like how normal Magical Scrolls magic last for ~half an hour before they lose their power.
• December wrote on 2010-08-11 12:28
  Interesting guide, I didnt know you could play instrument + golem at the same time. You should make note that the golem is basically useless until like rank 9.
• Maxdra wrote on 2010-08-11 15:42

  Quote from Phunkie;120452:

  Here's some information on the new scrolls!
  I love MabiData, man. Those people are always up-to-date.

  
  Thank you, Phunkie. :2thumb:
  Also note, I think it's possible to use music to get Strong, Skillful, Wise titles, because it can stack with food.
  

  Quote from Iyasenu;120987:

  won't you need someone else to play? :o
  otherwise the boost would go away before you have time for a real attack :X
  edit:
  btw why is this pre-G12?
  what happens in G12?

  
  This is more of a support class...with a golem at the side to so "bards" won't be put in the same category as a "healer".
  I put pre-g12 because NA Nexon tends to nerf thing...which would either overpower magic music or make them beyond useless. (ex: make it not possible to control golem and play instrument or, if even possible, increase fail rate.)
  

  Quote from December;121258:

  Interesting guide, I didnt know you could play instrument + golem at the same time. You should make note that the golem is basically useless until like rank 9.

  
  

  Quote from Maxdra;120103:

  Suggested:
  Rank 9+ Alchemy Mastery
  Rank 9+ Summon Golem

  
  I did. Well, at least, I think I did...
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-08-11 16:13
  Oh god, seriously? Play instrument and golem together is possible???
  
  Very nice party support to note.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2010-08-11 16:18
  I have no qualms with any Bard that wants to join my party if they know what they're doing. Healers, on the other hand, are worthless and are not worth my time. Allow me to explain.
  
  Combat value is summarized by your overall contribution to a party. Standard value can be displayed as 100%. Two offensive players represent 200% as they produce twice as much DPS in a perfect situation. This allows a support character to determine their overall usefulness.
  
  Take for example the magical music effect "Fast Casting" which decreases magic load time by 10%. In order to make up for the damage lost because you aren't contributing to the party, you would need to reduce the magic cast time of at least ten players. Since the maximum party size is capped at eight players, this effect is useless.
  
  The scroll that boosts damage ouput on the other hand is very useful. It increases damage by 31%. This means that only four players are required to make up for the damage lost. In a full party, you would effectively have twice as much combat value as another player.
  
  Healers, on the other hand, only contribute to the party by preventing a wipe-out and prolonging Dark Knight transformation. They add no combat value to your party. Essentially, your teams ability to take an objective is not influenced by a healer. Mabinogi is not about tanking until you can take advantage of mana shield, at which point healing HP becomes completely pointless. Healers, unlike Bards, are completely outclassed by potions and party feathers.
• paladin wrote on 2010-08-11 16:22
  Wow the scrolls arent cheap
  so if you use the scrolls your paying 2k a play for the mp scroll
  and 600g a play for the combat scroll
  Thats alot of money to make back
  Otherwise those two are some effective scrolls
• Justified wrote on 2010-08-11 18:09

  Quote from paladin;121407:

  Wow the scrolls arent cheap
  so if you use the scrolls your paying 2k a play for the mp scroll
  and 600g a play for the combat scroll
  Thats alot of money to make back
  Otherwise those two are some effective scrolls

  
  
  2k for the MP score, but it restores 30% of MP. For me non-trans, that would be around 130MP. An MP100 runs at around 1k-2.5k, so it's about right.
  
  But it also works in a party for everybody + pets. So you could be getting like +400MP per use in a party SM/dungeon/whatever, even if people only have like 150MP total.
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-08-12 01:36

  Quote from Kaeporo;121405:

  I have no qualms with any Bard that wants to join my party if they know what they're doing. Healers, on the other hand, are worthless and are not worth my time. Allow me to explain.
  
  Combat value is summarized by your overall contribution to a party. Standard value can be displayed as 100%. Two offensive players represent 200% as they produce twice as much DPS in a perfect situation. This allows a support character to determine their overall usefulness.
  
  Take for example the magical music effect "Fast Casting" which decreases magic load time by 10%. In order to make up for the damage lost because you aren't contributing to the party, you would need to reduce the magic cast time of at least ten players. Since the maximum party size is capped at eight players, this effect is useless.
  
  The scroll that boosts damage ouput on the other hand is very useful. It increases damage by 31%. This means that only four players are required to make up for the damage lost. In a full party, you would effectively have twice as much combat value as another player.
  
  Healers, on the other hand, only contribute to the party by preventing a wipe-out and prolonging Dark Knight transformation. They add no combat value to your party. Essentially, your teams ability to take an objective is not influenced by a healer. Mabinogi is not about tanking until you can take advantage of mana shield, at which point healing HP becomes completely pointless. Healers, unlike Bards, are completely outclassed by potions and party feathers.

  
  Party healers are a different thing though, especially with special pass missions in Tara.
  No party healer usually means your group will get lower scores.