Global Rules Updated

• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-05-10 20:56
  Some minor changes made to the global rules. Change list is here:
  
  

  Quote from Old:

  Dicussion of "mods", hacks, cheats, or other exploits for Mabinogi, Vindictus, or other Nexon games is permitted, however, you may not request or post additional information concerning exploits (to include their names, creation, and usage) nor may you link to websites which provide this information or access to this content.

  
  
  

  Quote from Changes:

  Dicussion of "mods", hacks, cheats, or other exploits for games is permitted, however, you may not request or post additional information concerning exploits (to include their names, creation, and usage) nor may you link to websites which provide this information or access to this content. This will only be allowed if the content owners have expressed their consent and permission for such activity to be allowed.

  
  
  

  Quote from Old:

  Spam - Spam is any off-topic or otherwise useless message. For example, quoting someone and saying “this ^” to express your agreement is considered spam and can result in a warning or infraction. Going off topic or being childish will also qualify as spam, and depending on the situation may also qualify as harassing/trolling or any other number of broken rules, for example using provocative memes or anything that can be seen as such.

  
  
  

  Quote from Changes:

  Spam - Spam is any off-topic or otherwise useless message. For example, quoting someone and saying “this ^” to express your agreement is considered spam and can result in a warning or infraction. Going off topic or being childish will also qualify as spam, and depending on the situation may also qualify as harassing/trolling or any other number of broken rules, for example using provocative memes or anything that can be seen as such. Refer to the spam policies thread for more details.

  
  
  

  Quote from New Rule:

  If you are given a temporary ban, do not post publicly under an alternate account. This is ban dodging and will result in a permanent ban for all your accounts. You may only use an alternate account to send private messages during your ban period.

• Lewd wrote on 2013-05-10 22:03
  I'm still confused about the mods rule. So as long as the creator says its ok to mod, we can talk about it?
  Like Bethedsa is ok but Nexon isn't?
• Kendoza wrote on 2013-05-10 22:32

  Quote from Lewd;1086060:

  I'm still confused about the mods rule. So as long as the creator says its ok to mod, we can talk about it?
  Like Bethedsa is ok but Nexon isn't?

  
  
  I think they mean a thread starter.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-10 22:41

  Quote from Kendoza;1086089:

  I think they mean a thread starter.

  
  
  Can you confirm and clarify Ashiki. The fact that there's some confusion here tells me that the rule isn't clear enough.
• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-05-15 05:24
  Its like how if Valve/Bethesda goes "hey guys, make all the mods you want!"
  
  Then its totally fine to discuss it as much as you want.
  
  But then if we don't have that kind of confirmation, like when people are like "they never said it WASNT okay!" about mods on runescape, too bad. They never said it was okay either, so we're not going to get in to details about it.
• Llama wrote on 2013-05-15 06:21

  Quote from Ashikoki;1088918:

  Its like how if Valve/Bethesda goes "hey guys, make all the mods you want!"
  
  Then its totally fine to discuss it as much as you want.
  
  But then if we don't have that kind of confirmation, like when people are like "they never said it WASNT okay!" about mods on runescape, too bad. They never said it was okay either, so we're not going to get in to details about it.

  
  
  But if they didn't want their mods to be publicly discussed, they shouldn't have made them in the first place. Plus, mabination isn't where we discuss about modifications, with the exception of some misunderstanding to the modification itself or they thought we could discuss modifications freely. There are websites for that purpose.
• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-05-15 06:23

  Quote from Llama;1088946:

  But if they didn't want their mods to be publicly discussed, they shouldn't have made them in the first place. Plus, mabination isn't where we discuss about modifications, with the exception of some misunderstanding to the modification itself or they thought we could discuss modifications freely. There are websites for that purpose.

  
  
  Uhh... exactly?
• Llama wrote on 2013-05-15 06:25

  Quote from Ashikoki;1088947:

  Uhh... exactly?

  
  
  So there's no point having the consent shit. It'd just confuse people.
• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-05-15 06:44

  Quote from Llama;1088948:

  So there's no point having the consent shit. It'd just confuse people.

  
  
  You can talk about mods that they've allowed.
  
  Games that are open source with full express permission from the owners. Left 4 Dead, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls, etc.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-15 09:55

  Quote from Ashikoki;1088958:

  You can talk about mods that they've allowed.
  
  Games that are open source with full express permission from the owners. Left 4 Dead, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls, etc.

  
  
  In other words, what you are saying is that discussing mabinogi mods is out of the question as Nexon has not given permission for them.
• Lyrveil wrote on 2013-05-15 20:25

  Quote from Llama;1088946:

  But if they didn't want their mods to be publicly discussed, they shouldn't have made them in the first place. Plus, mabination isn't where we discuss about modifications, with the exception of some misunderstanding to the modification itself or they thought we could discuss modifications freely. There are websites for that purpose.

  
  
  I think you're mistaking what Ashikoki meant by content owner. We're not talking about the mods creator. We're talking about the game owner. In the case of nexon it's not allowed. If it's a valve game chances are it will be allowed. That kind of stuff.
• Ashikoki wrote on 2013-05-15 20:57

  Quote from Kingofrunes;1089043:

  In other words, what you are saying is that discussing mabinogi mods is out of the question as Nexon has not given permission for them.

  
  
  Yup.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-05-15 21:04

  Quote from Ashikoki;1089310:

  Yup.

  
  
  Aha, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up!
• Taycat wrote on 2013-05-17 22:24
  These seem pretty awesome, imo.
• wildk wrote on 2013-05-19 01:20

  Quote from Ashikoki;1089310:

  
  [QUOTE=Kingofrunes;1089043]In other words, what you are saying is that discussing mabinogi mods is out of the question as Nexon has not given permission for them.

  
  
  Yup.[/QUOTE]
  
  I'm complete fine with the rules, but this makes Mabination sound like it's run by Nexon. Which it isn't. Is it? :worry:
  
  I don't see why it shouldn't be allowed just because Nexon doesn't like it. It's a Mabinogi fansite not Nexon fansite. :fail2:
  
  Instead you should probably just say that it's not allowed because it might get you into trouble and none of us would like that. Makes it sounds much better :thumb: