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RB2temp wrote on 2013-05-29 19:56

Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;1097170:
As long as you do something and have a direction by the time you're 20, you still have a chance at a decent living.

Completely disagree. Depends on what you're looking at though. A lot of people don't find a direction and "make it" until at least 40 and often towards the end of their lives. But that's mainly with business-related things. Not so common with art.

If you're good enough at anything you will make it regardless of how old you are, and age is not really a relevant factor in 99% of jobs. It's enough to stop someone from getting into the NBA, but it won't stop an artist.

Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;1097324:
Sorry for living in a place where everyone in their early 20s has degrees, work experience, and internships
The companies here are extremely biased.
[SPOILER="Spoiler"][video=youtube;cdnoqCViqUo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdnoqCViqUo[/video]
Note: this is going to be a terrible movie.[/SPOILER]
Forgot you can manipulate people in areas who have no idea what they're hiring people for.

It really depends on the type of work and how skillful you are at it if it involves any sort of noteworthy amount of creativity, IMO. If you can produce a better product than anyone else it would be a smart decision to hire you.
Mentosftw wrote on 2013-05-29 19:59

Quote from RB2temp;1097453:
Completely disagree. Depends on what you're looking at though. A lot of people don't find a direction and "make it" until at least 40 and often towards the end of their lives. But that's mainly with business-related things. Not so common with art.

If you're good enough at anything you will make it regardless of how old you are, and age is not really a relevant factor in 99% of jobs. It's enough to stop someone from getting into the NBA, but it won't stop an artist.

It really depends on the type of work and how skillful you are at it if it involves any sort of noteworthy amount of creativity, IMO. If you can produce a better product than anyone else it would be a smart decision to hire you.

You have no idea...

Most high level employee positions are occupied by people who have merely sat in the company for many years, not the people who actually deserve it. They're not giving up their status anytime soon either.
RB2temp wrote on 2013-05-29 20:04

Oh, I'm aware of the hierarchical bullshit that goes on. I just consider a lot of those kinds of jobs to be undesirable jobs in the first place, even if they pay quite well and are looked at socially as being of great value. Do you really want that to be a third to a half of the rest of your life?

You don't have to suffer through shitty systems to make money. Most people do, but they don't have to.
Aubog007 wrote on 2013-05-30 05:24

Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;1097324:
Sorry for living in a place where everyone in their early 20s has degrees, work experience, and internships
The companies here are extremely biased.
[SPOILER="Spoiler"][video=youtube;cdnoqCViqUo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdnoqCViqUo[/video]
Note: this is going to be a terrible movie.[/SPOILER]
Forgot you can manipulate people in areas who have no idea what they're hiring people for.

I got hired as a custodian for the USPS, you may call that a bad job if you want, but i have two choices after i become full time regular here.
Stick with being a custodian in the world's easiest job (40k a year and i work 2 hours a day and relax 6 hours a day)
Or the government can pay for my schooling and i become an ET or a mechanic and make 80k a year without paying a dime out of my pocket for education.

Decisions.

This is why i urge people to look for government jobs. They pay extremely well and are very hard to actually get fired from.
BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2013-05-30 07:17

Quote from RB2temp;1097453:
Completely disagree. Depends on what you're looking at though. A lot of people don't find a direction and "make it" until at least 40 and often towards the end of their lives. But that's mainly with business-related things. Not so common with art.

If you're good enough at anything you will make it regardless of how old you are, and age is not really a relevant factor in 99% of jobs. It's enough to stop someone from getting into the NBA, but it won't stop an artist.

Never said anything about "making it". By doing something and having direction, it means taking steps, not jumping all the way.
That would be ridiculous, although appealing at age 20.
A person being financially stable is usually around the 30s.
Also, experience is emphasized a lot more than age in the original post.
Having similar experiences like someone much, much younger is a disadvantage. HR often discriminate when it comes to ages, especially in a high population area.
Employees are replaceable and short term.

Quote from Aubog007;1097817:
I got hired as a custodian for the USPS, you may call that a bad job if you want, but i have two choices after i become full time regular here.
Stick with being a custodian in the world's easiest job (40k a year and i work 2 hours a day and relax 6 hours a day)
Or the government can pay for my schooling and i become an ET or a mechanic and make 80k a year without paying a dime out of my pocket for education.

Decisions.

This is why i urge people to look for government jobs. They pay extremely well and are very hard to actually get fired from.

I don't care about getting any jobs to support a living.
You don't need help for that. The thread here was not made for that.
Also, the supply of government jobs here is far, far outweighed by the demand.
Aubog007 wrote on 2013-05-30 09:39

Quote from BobYoMeowMeow;1097847:
Never said anything about "making it". By doing something and having direction, it means taking steps, not jumping all the way.
That would be ridiculous, although appealing at age 20.
A person being financially stable is usually around the 30s.
Also, experience is emphasized a lot more than age in the original post.
Having similar experiences like someone much, much younger is a disadvantage. HR often discriminate when it comes to ages, especially in a high population area.
Employees are replaceable and short term.

I don't care about getting any jobs to support a living.
You don't need help for that. The thread here was not made for that.
Also, the supply of government jobs here is far, far outweighed by the demand.

I am saying that society's emphasis on education and other things is grossly overstated.

Conspiracy theory, it's a ploy by the banks to screw more people into debt.

The topic was made because someone thinks they "dont have time because of all the pressure and feeling like a failure"

My response.
I basically HAD to sit on my ass for 8 years and everything worked out fine, no longer feeling like i am a failure, but someone who still has a great pace in their life.

And right now, at THIS exact point in time, government jobs are being restructured, hence why it's easier now than ever, hence why i also made that suggestion.

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